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post #1 of 16 Old 03-20-2009, 12:42 AM Thread Starter
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Won't let me get on!

I recently started riding a horse at my barn that was used almost exclusively as a trail horse. I am riding her in an arena, English. It is a good experience for me, because I am getting to work with a trained horse, but not trained in the discipline I am riding. I'm working with her on her problems.

The one huge problem I am having, though, is getting on! If someone stands at her head, she is an angel to get on. But, If I am getting on without someone at her head, it is almost impossible. I will have her standing still, and i will move the block to her side. I will stand by her head, and she stands still. The second I move towards the block she turns her hind end away from the block. I will take her reins and hold them over the withers, trying not to pull back, but trying to keep her head from turning. What can I do to stop her from being such a brat? My trainer said she is just testing me, and getting away with what she can. How do I fix this?
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post #2 of 16 Old 03-20-2009, 12:49 AM
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When you take the reins at her withers have the rein farthest from you a little bit tighter so she is slightly bend with her head looking away from you.

Almost impossible to move her rear away from you in that position.
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My horse is starting to do the same thing. I was taught to keep the inside rein tighter and when she tries to move away then she'll go in a circle towards you. Its kinda like a one rein stop and after a few circles she should stop. When she does stop give release and a good job, then try to get on. If she does it again then just keep turning her. eventually you should be able to just got on.
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post #4 of 16 Old 03-20-2009, 01:03 AM
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The horse isn't giving you permission to get on. First thing is to figure out WHY. Check saddle fit, physical issues, etc.

I teach my horses to come "pick me up" if I stand on something. I teach them on the ground first to move away from rhythmic pressure and when I stand on something I take my stick/whip/etc, reach over the horse's hindquarters and tap which ever part of his body needs to come closer. Usually though he positions himself perfectly and asks me to get on. Because he understands what the rhythmic pressure means he knows to yield from the suggestion.
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post #5 of 16 Old 03-20-2009, 01:03 AM
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The moment she moves her hind end away from you, pull her head towards you on the left side of her mouth. Pull her around so that her head is facing you, and with your left arm wave her over to your right. If you are carrying a whip, wave the whip at her shoulder until she moves over. Once she moves over to the point where you could walk her forwards to be mounted, you stop and praise by patting her face. Ask her to walk forward one step with the left rein, but be careful not to wave her forward with your right. Just cluck at her, or maintain a gentle tug. The second you feel her take a step, stop and pat her. Repeat until she is far enough forward for you to mount. If she moves her haunches away again, keep repeating.
What this does is the closer she is to you, there is a place of peace. When she moves away from you, the area she is moving into creates pressure, and so she will chose to remain square with the mounting block. :)

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Just be careful if you do as Spyder suggests so that she can't move her hind end away from you, that she doesn't decide to try moving her hind end closer to you. Then you'll have to worry about the block and yourself if she happens to react funny should she actually come into contact with the block or even you. Just something to be aware of, but I would say your probem would be fixed just by having her head turned away.

If she decides she's going to back up instead you may have to get on her without the mounting block, but have it in the normal position you would when using it to mount. You needn't actually get on at first, just stand up as if mounting will even do. If height is the reason you use the block then bring your stirrup on the side you're mounting from right down to a suitable length you can use to get on (or half get on). Tighten the rein on whic ever side you're getting on from and mount, you could integrate the mounting block as you rise up to get into the saddle (having it close by of course), and this horse should realise she's been beaten at her own game :). Of course if you've got to use this method, use it for a bit then go back to using the block, or alternate how you get on.

Goodluck. :)

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The way I teach my horses is that the moment they move, I keep them moving. First in one circle then the other way. I'll keep doing this until they get the message that it's easier to stand there while I mount.

The first few times with a stubborn new horse may take 10 min or more but they all get the message sooner or latter. I rarely have to do it more then a few mounting sessions.

I tried the other methods mentioned but I found that those do not fix the problem, and that they are really a work-around instead of a cure.

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I haven't had a horse yet that wasn't fixed by the method I described above. It's pretty clear. There is only one place where the horse gets peace. It's pretty black and white.

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I haven't had a horse yet that wasn't fixed by the method I described above. It's pretty clear. There is only one place where the horse gets peace. It's pretty black and white.
Sorry Koomy I was actually referring to the "hold the rein (left or right) method". Yours may work very well but I found it more complicated then mine.

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post #10 of 16 Old 03-20-2009, 04:42 PM
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is this horse used to the mounting block? It could be a simple issue of not being used to the mounting block.... if that's the case you'll just have to keep working with it....

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