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    12-21-2008, 10:07 AM
Green Broke
Wont pick up BACK feet...

Okay We finally solved picking up the front feet!! YAY!! Well when I couldnt pick up her front I COULD pick up her back... But now since I can pick up he font... she wont let me pick up her back! Wth chance!

I had a vet look for any type of pain in her back legs and he said there shouldnt really be a reason she shouldnt allow you to pick them up..she completely sound *sigh* Oh and her back is fine it was the mis fitting saddle sorry off topic

So when ever I try and pick up her back feet she will first pick it up real high then first try and kick me but im standing close enough that she can't really get the momentum to strike out at me. BUt she throws me right off balence.

So I've taught her to just rest each foot on the ground for cleaning that way I just don't have to deal with it... but I need to get her back feet picked up.

SHe will let me towel/brush anywhere on her back legs and wipe mud off her hooves ect...

Some people are saying its a respect issue.. which we are working on that but it doesnt seem to be helping. The farrier is coming out to do her feet and SOMEHOW he does her back feet [im not usually there usually at school]

I need HELP! Im afraid since I can't pick up her back feet I wouldnt be able to catch any kind of fungus or w.e could start back there.

Lmao I was thinking about tieing a lead rope on her back foot then get on her back and pull up so I wont get kicked but that could be dangerous so obviously im not going to do that.
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    12-21-2008, 10:18 AM
Since she has picked them up in the past but now choses to not pick them up, I'd say its an attitude thing.
Don't be timid, get right in there and when she picks her foot up high grab it and hang on to it.
If all else fails do some practicing with the lead rope you talked about. Do a once around (the pastern/ankle) with it, stand at the shoulder holding both end of the lead rope and practice having her pick up her foot while you say "up"
    12-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Green Broke
It is physically impossible to kick you hard while you are really close to there leg right. I've done it but im alway nervous im going to get kicked. Ill probably start working on it in her stall.. or would it be better on cross ties???
    12-21-2008, 02:40 PM
If your nervous she is going to know it. You should probably start with the lead rope until you are comfortable that she isn't going to kick out.
Just stand at her shoulder and lift her leg while you say "up" then put it down. Do this over and over.
I wish I could find a photo of what I'm talking about Do you understand what I mean?

Edt: here's one, its with the front foot but you can just do the same with the hind while you stand out of kick range at the shoulder
    12-21-2008, 02:48 PM
If it's an attitude issue I'd recommend to pick it up with lead rope for while: just put lead around the fetlock and pull up, hold for couple secs and let it down. Do it like 20 times each time you do it.

On other hand may be she doesn't feel comfortable. In this case may be picking up and holding it like that for sec or two before pulling it back in "clean" position would do a trick. At least my qh prefers it this way (so she has some time to relax her muscles and prepare herself for pulling it back).
    12-21-2008, 02:49 PM
Oh, btw I found out cross ties usually worsen the situation.
    12-21-2008, 08:10 PM
I've always worked through this issue by establishing that I'm not letting go no matter what. If the horse does jerk badly enough to pull its hoof away from you, give it a good smack and pick the foot up again. Every horse that I've done this with (when it's an attitude problem) has eventually held still long enough that I drop it. I usually wait until they relax and hold still for about five seconds. As for your fear of getting kicked- you just need to be careful, keep your body off to the side. I've done this with horses tied but I completely trust my horses not to pull. Loose is not the way to go but if you don't trust your horse tied, enlist a helper and have them hold the horse for you while you do this.
    12-21-2008, 08:32 PM
Personally, if it's attitude, I'd pick up her foot and hold on. I would've thrown a Belgium doing that, except he got smart and just let me have his foot. Before you go to that extreme (and BTW, you need a 2nd person for that), when she lifts her foot really high, give her a minute to relax the leg. (My 7yrold always needs a few seconds before she puts her back feet where I want them for cleaning.) When she relaxes, then praise her, pat the bottom of her hoof and put it down.

And, yes, if you are nervous, she's going to know. Can anyone else besides the farrier pick up her back feet? Maybe you could watch what someone else is doing successfully with her and that would help YOU too.
    12-21-2008, 09:05 PM
Green Broke
My friend has picked up her back feet but did threaten to kick. Ill try the lead rope thing but if all else fails im going to grab it and hold on I guess.

Im not going to smack her because then she feel threatened and it makes things worse then when we started I've learned the hard way with that.

Thanks everyone!! Ill keep you updated on how it goes.
    12-21-2008, 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
My friend has picked up her back feet but did threaten to kick. Ill try the lead rope thing but if all else fails im going to grab it and hold on I guess.

Im not going to smack her because then she feel threatened and it makes things worse then when we started I've learned the hard way with that.

Thanks everyone!! Ill keep you updated on how it goes.
If you do the "hold on" bit, she CAN NOT be tied. You must have a buddy to hold her lead firmly. Work in a soft area just in case she goes down. She probably won't, but maybe... And you CAN'T give in if you start. Keep her foot in hand until she stands still. It's a workout -- be ready! It's not for the fainthearted.

Since she does pick up, but doesn't behave when up, I don't think the lead rope is going to work. You won't have control over where her leg goes (or much anyway) so she could still kick.

Why not call the farrier and asked how it went for him and what he did?

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