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    12-22-2008, 12:22 AM
When I was trying to pick up Gem's feet, I did it in the aisle way, but he was not on cross ties (he would get very antsy in the cross ties and I didn't want him to have a bad experience to go with them)
So I would have the lead draped over him and I'd try and pick up his feet (it was his front feet, but I had to go over the back feet aswell)
If he wanted to back up, fine, I'd let him back up to try and get away, but I was always moving with him so he never got away. When he realized this, I was able to pick it. I would only hold it for a second or two at first. (To let him know that was ALL I was going to do. Nothing more)
Then I would bring him back up where I started and just keep doing it.
I would sometimes bring treats into the mix. After I was able to clean one foot, I'd give him a treat.

I also do suggest having a helper there, though it is possible to do alone.
After about a month of doing this everyday several times a day, he's able to pick it up any time now (including out in a pasture without him moving away at all)

Granted Gem's prior situation is different than Chances but I did have to deal with a horse not wanting to pick their hooves up and also dealing with Gem trying to pull his hoof away.
Oh! Anytime he would do that, I would tell him to relax. It was more for me really, but it did help. I found that when he started to pull his foot away, I'd grab onto his leg tighter. When I would say "Relax", I would relax and Gem would stop pulling.

I hope you get this all worked out soon.

I would also suggest NOT doing this in the stall (because it's small and there's less room to move around)
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    12-22-2008, 02:26 AM
I would advise you to pick it up and hold on. She can still kick you when you stand close but it would be more like being pushed than kicked. When she allows you to hold her foot up and the moment she stops resisting, let her foot down and give her a pat. This will take time but just keep at it. Good luck. :)
    12-22-2008, 05:27 PM
Green Broke
Thanks everyone!! :) I decided ill head tie her no on cross ties though o.O idk if that makes sense to you or not. Ill give it a shot.
    12-22-2008, 11:18 PM
I wouldn't tie her AT ALL if you are going to force the issue with her. If she does lose her balance and fall she could be seriously injured if tied -- Like twisted neck, smashed head, even broken neck! If you don't have someone else to hold her, then I advise doing it as suggested -- with the lead over her shoulder. Don't, don't, *don't* tie her if you're going to hold her foot until she gives.
    12-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Green Broke
Okay noooo tieing!
    12-23-2008, 12:53 AM
Yeah I agree with northern with no tying.
I can only imagine what would have happened if I had gem tied. I also knew that if he got out of the barn he couldnt go anywhere (its fenced in)

If your barn isnt fenced in, see if you can close off the barn doors to keep her contained if she gets away.
    12-23-2008, 02:14 PM
Let us know how it goes! Good luck!
    12-23-2008, 07:31 PM
Green Broke
I didnt get to work on it today cause there was no one around to hold her for me... what about doing it while she's occupied with eatting... she's food orinented so she wont want to go to far away...
    12-23-2008, 09:01 PM
I try to leave my girls completely alone when they are eating there meals.
There is some horsey territorial thing going on then. I would suggest you wait till you either have her in an area where she can't run off or have some help.
    12-23-2008, 10:52 PM
Why not use appylover's suggestion of working in an enclosed area? The food thing may or may not be a good idea. It really depends on the horse I think. You may not want to associate something that she won't like with food... I think I agree with Vidalco -- keep the food away. She's not going to pay attention to it anyway if you're hanging off her back leg!

As she progresses, *later*, you might want to have hay there for her to munch on so she then associates the foot work with comfort AFTER she's over the foot thing in the first place.

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