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        05-16-2008, 02:37 PM
    I honestly don't find it all that unusual for a horse to not like cross ties. I mean they have to stand perfectly in the center of the 2 cross ties, because if they don't there is more pressure on one side than the other. That's just my opinion though,

    I do cross tie Vega, but that's usually only when she has hay/grain in her stall and I don't want her eating it until all her tack is off.

    We don't cross tie Gem because he panics when he's in them, and since he's fine with us doing whatever in his stall, then we do that.
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        05-16-2008, 02:51 PM
    Lexi doesn't really mind cross-ties. But then again, I usually don't use them that much.
        05-16-2008, 03:31 PM
    I only cross tied when I was trying to teach my cinchy horse I'm not going to reef on the cinch. So I tied him to save my thighs, he used to whip his head around and snap his teeth on my buns when I cinched him, no matter HOW gentle, so I cross tied him when I saddled and once he learned I did it gently, I didn't need them anymore.
        05-16-2008, 04:14 PM
    I usually don't cross tie him, but it was raining, and I needed to tie him somewhere for a few minutes. He started to move all over the place, and I realized he didn't really like it, so I unhooked him. I then tried to hold him there while I figured out what to do, and that's when he got even worse. Going sideways, twisting around....
        05-16-2008, 09:49 PM
    I agree with tieing up, abby my 4 year old is now up to being tied for around 30 minutes before she figures out my knott and unties her self. (she get's an extra 15 mins when she does that) it doesn't teach a horse thing when you "run it" to get it to stand still...like abby said, a lot of time and patience will do
        05-16-2008, 10:02 PM
    I agree with tying up and chillin back. It's the cowboy way - (although I ain't a cowgirl). Willy is also antzy, but after a summer of tying on day trips - he is way better than he is the rest of the year.
        05-19-2008, 09:02 AM
    Originally Posted by MaryMooCow22
    Wow! Some great ideas!

    Northernmama--he's 5 years old. He stands fine when I groom him in his stall or when I tie him up to to a hitching post or something like that, but he hates the cross ties.
    At 5 years old, IMO, you should be able to teach him that crossties aren't a bad thing. Is there anyway you can set up a crosstie in his stall? That would give him the security of what he knows as a starting point. Also, what if you give him a little bit of slack on both ties so he can move his head a bit more? Would that help or hinder? I would continue to work on this. Like I said, even for 5 minutes at first, then moving up to 10 and so on... Tie him up and stand where he feels most comfortable with you and just be with him. Maybe don't worry too much about his back end at first, just give him security in his environment either in his stall or with you or with some hay, whatever works.

    Good luck.

    I never used to crosstie, but over the last couple of years I have found situations where is very useful and I'm so glad my two tie well. If they didn't I would certainly take the time to teach them.
        05-19-2008, 10:45 AM
    I realize that not everybody can do this but I discovered over this weekend Twister is more willing to stand when he is tied in different locations. I had to tie him several times this weekend and in different places and he stood better this weekend than he ever has. He is a curious horse and I think he liked being tied to the back of the truck the best. He was able to feel the different surfaces of the metal and tail lights and such. Of course that was the one time where I sat on the tailgate with him too. So I guess my suggestion is what about tying him to different spots for a short period of time. Make him realize that its not a bad thing and give him stuff to look at and discover.
        05-19-2008, 10:54 AM
    Respect, respect, respect! He needs to stand, he doesnt have an option. Make sure you have a lot of extra time the next few times you do there to see him.

    Take a look around and make sure there isnt something that scares him first because you never know. It could be a legit reason he is acting that way.

    Otherwise make him stand. Stay next to him and hit him in the chest once. Make him stop. One good smack and tell him "stand". If all fails and he is really determined, bring a book.

    Tie him and leave him there. He'll get bored. I would love to come and show you because the horse I just had was horrid. He did have something going for him tho, he was a baby and hadnt really been worked with a lot. By the end of week one, we would have stood there a tornado had gone by.

    Keep us posted.
        05-19-2008, 11:39 AM
    Wow guys, that's some great advice! I've got stuff in the way today ( :( ) but I'm for sure heading out tomorrow...I'll definitely give that a try......tie him up and make him stand.

    Dumas'--now that you mention it, I think Sage is the same way!! I tied him outside the barn by the tack room, and he stood fine. I'll have to investigate the inside around the cross-ties to see if there's something making him nervous. But then again, it could be that he just hates cross ties ! Either way, I'm definitely going to work with him on this.

    THanks so much everyone!!!!!!!

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