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        07-29-2011, 01:33 PM
      #21
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Zimpatico    
    Elana, don't ruin my personal fantasty! I still want to believe Zee loves me and we have a "bond", but that doesn't stop me from giving him a good crack whenever he thinks it a good time to challenge with!
    Can you also dance around him with a stick and give him cookies if he dares defy you?! :P
         
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        07-29-2011, 01:44 PM
      #22
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Equilove    
    Can you also dance around him with a stick and give him cookies if he dares defy you?! :P
    Cookies only after he gets smacked and yelled at, then gives me pouty face. I'm a sucker... ROTFL!

    Funny story about the sticks. I once boarded for a couple of weeks at a "name brand NH" barn because it was close and had amazing pastures & trails. At the time, I didn't really know what this particular name meant to its followers and how crazy some of these follwers are. I was slowly informed that I do not use the correct equipment. Namely, rope halters, carrot stick, etc... I caved and got a rope halter since they handled the turnout to make them happy. I said I have a stick, it's called a dressage whip! OMG, they were totally offended that I did not buy the approved name brand rope halter, and the fancy carrot stick was NOTHING like a dressage whip. Um, yeah, ok... I realized after about three weeks there was no way I could make it work at that barn. Sorry, but I had to give up the gorgeous pastures. I think I was the only boarder there that actually RODE their horse. Heaven forbid...

    Oh, and I still get the emails about "play dates" at other area name-that-will-not-be-mentioned barns! No thank you!
         
        07-29-2011, 01:49 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    I'm not advocating either view but I am curious as to why people think dogs, cats etc can form bonds with humans but horses cannot?
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        07-29-2011, 01:53 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    I don't think any animal really "bonds" to us the way we think they do, or at least they certainly don't feel as strongly towards us as we do towards them. They don't think the same way we do, imagining the future, comtemplating the past, and analyzing our feelings. I think they might get attached to us, knowing that they enjoy their life when we're around, but they are too "in the moment" to think about it beyond that...
         
        07-29-2011, 01:53 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dresden    
    I'm not advocating either view but I am curious as to why people think dogs, cats etc can form bonds with humans but horses cannot?
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    Prey/predator. Have you ever tried to gain the affection of a deer?

    It isn't that they can't bond at all. Horses just "bond" in different ways than dogs and cats.
         
        07-29-2011, 02:09 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Equilove    
    Prey/predator. Have you ever tried to gain the affection of a deer?

    It isn't that they can't bond at all. Horses just "bond" in different ways than dogs and cats.
    I'm just trying to understand as I hear this a lot. So rabbits-domesticated variety- cannot bond either? Or any other prey animal?
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        07-29-2011, 02:21 PM
      #27
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Dresden    
    I'm just trying to understand as I hear this a lot. So rabbits-domesticated variety- cannot bond either? Or any other prey animal?
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    If you consider the way a rabbit responds to you as opposed to a dog, even the most domesticated rabbit, it is very different.
         
        07-29-2011, 02:23 PM
      #28
    Started
    Loved it! Thanks for posting, smrobs!
         
        07-29-2011, 04:11 PM
      #29
    Showing
    I also don't believe that it's a fake e-mail. Like others have said, I've seen the exact same thing too many times both here and in my outside life to believe that he didn't get a letter exactly like this.

    Dresden, it's not that certain animals can bond and others can't. I'll be the first to admit that horses certainly do bond to certain people. However, they don't bond like people, they don't bond like dogs, and they don't bond like cats, they bond like horses. The biggest problem people run into is when they try to make horses into something that they aren't.

    People try to rationalize the horse's every action the way that you would with a human by attributing those actions to some human emotion like love, jealousy, or bitterness. Horses are horses, nothing more, nothing less. Expecting them to change their instinct or nature to fit our ideas of how they should act, feel, or respond is like asking a leopard to change it's spots. It's just not going to happen. That's exactly why you have to train them like a horse, not like a dog or a child.
         
        07-29-2011, 04:41 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    Smrobs, that makes complete sense to me. My hesitation was with statements indicating certain animals can bond and certain others cannot. All animals should be related to as what they are. My cat responds to things differently than my dogs. She must be trained like a cat. Your explanation seems like common sense but I couldn't find any logic in some animals can, some can't. They are, after all, all animals. Thank you.
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