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    07-09-2012, 03:47 PM
  #11
Trained
I would avoid ANY fast work, and try not to ride on concrete, if possible. You will wear your horse's legs out. Just replied to a recent post re: Amish auctions, and, if you saw the legs of their SB's and other driving horses after constant work on asphalt-paved roads, you'd reconsider any work on concrete. Their horses are played out by the time they are in their teens bc of the jarring, which I have witnessed for over 25 years.
If your horse slips and goes down to his knees or hocks on even the hardest clay, he'll be bruised but okay. If it happens on concrete you could easily break a knee.
Also, borium on shoes can prevent slippage, but, if on a QH's shoes you are bound to strain their legs bc QH like to plant and slide their feet in a turn.
     
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    07-09-2012, 11:43 PM
  #12
Started
Easy boots are a fantastic invention - but when I drove the horses had metal shoes with a layer of rubber between the shoe and the hoof, this helped soften the blow to their joints
     
    07-09-2012, 11:48 PM
  #13
Showing
I walk my horses on concrete all the time and I will trot if the need arises, but I won't go faster. The main reason for that is because my working horses are shod and I don't keep borium on their shoes so slipping is a huge risk.
     
    07-09-2012, 11:55 PM
  #14
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I know riding with shoes on concrete is dangerous because of sparks and the horse slipping, but it's also damaging to the horse's legs.
ESPECIALLY if that horse has shoes.
A horse's hooves can expand and contract, so it takes some of the shock away.
With shoes, there's no give. AT ALL.
My horse doesn't have shoes, and I still won't trot on the roads.
THe most we ever do it a pleasure rack.
     
    07-09-2012, 11:57 PM
  #15
Yearling
I believe Its ok to walk and trot on concrete as long as your horse doesn't have shoes on. Think of how it feels when you take a hammer and hit it against metal. You get that vibration all the way up your arm right? Well that's what the metal shoes do to a horses leg.
     
    07-10-2012, 01:54 AM
  #16
Trained
I like to condition my horse on a variety of surfaces, so yes I do walk on cement with him however I also work him on uneven terrain to keep his soft tissue flexible as too much road work can just make them rigid. He has not ever had a soft tissue injury and just last week thwacked himself a good one on a ligament. It was very swollen but the swelling receded completely in less than 72 hours and he was not lame. I attribute that to the conditioning and road work I do with him.
He is shod and I don't usually have a slippage problem even though he is shod in flat shoes, not regular barstock.
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    07-10-2012, 09:33 AM
  #17
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I believe Its ok to walk and trot on concrete as long as your horse doesn't have shoes on. Think of how it feels when you take a hammer and hit it against metal. You get that vibration all the way up your arm right? Well that's what the metal shoes do to a horses leg.
Its when you do a lot of work on roads that you DO need shoes on, its the shoes that protect the horses hooves from wearing down & getting footsore and prevent tiny bits of gravel from gritty roads getting up into the hoof and causing an abcess. When my horses worked daily for anything up to 3 hours and more on roads they would go through a set of UK shoes which are heavier than conventional US ones in 4 to 6 weeks, imagine what that would do to the foot Its possible to have shoe shaped pads between the hoof and shoe if concerns but I never found I needed them. I never had a lame horse as a result of its having shoes on, no cracks, bruises etc or any stress to the legs. Barefoot is fine if it fits in with what you do with your horse but there is far too much hype about shoes being painful or bad for horses that simply isn't substantiated by facts. I have had plenty of lameness issues in young or resting unshod horses even with regular foot trims and in some instances have even had to have light plates put on young horses to protect their feet because I had concerns about them cracking or breaking up. You do what is right for your horse and not what makes you feel warm & cosy inside because you think its right.
     
    07-10-2012, 10:02 AM
  #18
Trained
As someone who fox hunts, I w/t/c and gallop on roads. Whats most important is getting them fit for it. Starting my walking on the road for only a few minutes, working up to a light trot and canter over time. As far as going faster on the road, I've never run into any trouble with it, just don't do tight turns or sudden stops.

My horses all have front shoes only and they do just fine.

I also want to add that this is something I don't do every single day or anything like that
     

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