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    11-17-2010, 11:44 PM
Do you have anything for mounting? My ottb has been off the track for 3 yrs roughly and she's a great riding horse but she's really bad to mount. I was at a clinic and she threw me twice, and it wasn't very pretty. I've lost a lot of confidence in her. I bred her and I'm riding my instructors horses in the meantime to gain confidence, but is there anything I can do to teach her how to stand for mounting and to biuld my confidence??
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    11-18-2010, 01:38 AM
You are posting some very valuable info, but not every OTTB is the same, I have had a bunch now. My current is more like a donkey than a racehorse. He needs leg in everything. Although I have not let him gallop yet.

Vintage, have you tried putting him into a corner when you mount? It helps that if he has several sides that he cannot move out of that he will not move, it takes time though, as they are doing what they think is right by moving.
    11-18-2010, 07:43 AM
Vintage match , could you maybe describe to me what happens? She bucks when you mount? Or does she move away?
    11-18-2010, 09:25 AM
The last time I tried to mount she was moving around a lot so someone had to hold her, and as I was getting on she reared and I was stuck, hanging over the saddle, then she reared again and sat down so off I came, the the second time, I was actually on but I couldn't get my other stirrup, as she was rearing up, and down, she did it a bunch of times before going straight up and I mean straight everyone there thought she was going over, and then I came off. I haven't been on her since, so I'm not sure if she'd rear now, or if she'd just move around.
    11-18-2010, 04:12 PM
Sounds like there's a serious problem. You might want to rule out medical. If she's in a lot of discomfort... Once you're securly on, is she okay??
    11-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Oh yes, she's the absolute best to ride, her ears actually go floppy, because she's so relaxed.
    11-18-2010, 11:05 PM
Green Broke
Ak1- I don't know if I read it in here but I can't seem to find it but did you say do transitions from walk to canter?? And that will help

I always though that was a higher up thing, but if its not I would love to teach my tb it.
How would you go about teaching it??
    11-19-2010, 12:14 AM
Well considering TBs are normally mounted while they are in motion...it makes sense that she doesn't understand that want her to be still; she's just been taught to be moving while the rider mounts, or shall I say that if they move, they just hoist the jockey up there anyway.

What you need to do is create a circumtance in which "stand still' is clear for her. The way I train or retrain a horse to stand at the mounting block is to do 1 of 2 different exercises to teach him that you want him to be still while you mount. Either way is effective, and retrains the mind of the horse to not anticipate the mounting, so he learns to stand still.

1. Lead horse up to block, lining her up to it like as if you are going to mount, ask her to stop, and stand there for a few seconds, then walk away with her, maybe do a bit of backing, or hip yielding, so she isn't "just" walking around on the lead. Keep doing this over and over, progressively adding more time to your 'expectation' of her to stand still. Once she will walk up to the block and stand there with you in a normal leading position, then start asking her to stop, then step up onto the mounting block, and the retreat once more...eventually you will get to a point where you will get on the mounting block, fuss with the saddle, pat her all over her body (while on block), and step off and walk away again. Once she has that down, then get on block, put a foot in stirrup, and retreat...and so on and so forth, until she stands there for you to get on, quietly and calmly. This may take one lesson, or several. I would most certainly work on this AFTER she has had some groundwork to get her mind 'working'; she also won't have all that extra energy, that she would have if you saddled and went straight to mounting practice.

2. This method I have found to be the quicker one, as horses are naturally 'lazy' and will prefer to stand than have to work. Make sure she knows how to send and lunge well, though, as that will be the working techniques you will mainly use, although I will incorporate hip and shoulder yielding, backing, etc, as well. Set mounting block roughly 5-6 ft away from a fence, and lead her up to the block (she will be "sandwiched" between you and fence.)...when you get her there, stand next to the block, and start sending her back and forth between you and mounting block. After several repetitions of sending, bring her to a halt next to the block, just as you would if you were to lead her up to it to mount. She may be crooked the first bunch of times, but that's okay...you are just teaching her "where" to stop and stand. Let her rest there for a few moments, and retreat away from the block all together; Do some lunging away from the block, you and also work on yielding exercises as well, but mainly you want her feet to be moving really well. When you have worked her a bit, bring her back to the block, and this time stand on it while you send her back and forth, and once again after several repetitions, bring her to a halt next to the block. Let her rest there while you pat her neck, and all over her body on that side. After a little rest, retreat, and resume more lunging and yielding. Return to block and do what you did before, standing on the block, and sending her, and bringing her to a halt next to block; rub all over, let her rest, retreat. Once she is solid on that, then start putting a foot up to the stirrup, retreat, repeat, and so on...until you can mount and dismount without her moving about. Again, may take one session or several.
    11-19-2010, 04:53 PM
Yes. Redtree, the transitions can be done from canter :)
    11-19-2010, 05:43 PM
Alright thanks! I'll try that, she wasn't so bad at first but now..... I bred her and she's been really good since, so I might take her out and try that.

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