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        06-12-2013, 08:07 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Ok thanks for All ur advise I think this will really help me! Yes I have someone to help me when it comes to washing so that's a plus aswell, I always wash on the grass not a wash rack.I will try everything you guys said and try it the next time I have to wash for a show or something.
         
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        06-12-2013, 08:08 PM
      #12
    Foal
    We washed him in warm water once it didn't do anything, I think it's the personal space issue, this also happens sometimes when I'm grooming him.
         
        06-12-2013, 08:21 PM
      #13
    Foal
    You need punish him!! Don't let him get away with that!!
         
        06-13-2013, 05:53 AM
      #14
    Foal
    Ok thanks for all your advice! I think this will really help me!i don't use a rack I wash him on the grass.The reason I wash him for longer is that he is just so DIRTY! And when I think im done he still looks brown when he is supposed to be a grey colour. I have someone to help me wash him which helps.
    I give this a try and see what happens
    I might do some groundwork aswell
    Thanks guys !!!
         
        06-13-2013, 05:55 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Soz had trouble with posting
         
        06-13-2013, 01:41 PM
      #16
    Super Moderator
    I don't wash horses very often at all, and basically never with soap, except for the tail. But, if you insist on getting off every stain, then you can use a bucket of warm water, a very mild soap, and work on the worst areas by hand, and only squirt when dampening and rinsing, not the whole time.

    I agree totally with doing this in the open, working up from the feet, and having some help.

    I would allow your horse to move around you if necessary. You kind of twirl in the middle and step over the hose as needed. When he comes to a halt, take the water off him to reward. Rest a few secs, bring water back up onto his legs, and slowly up. If he needs to walk forward, let him circle around you, keep the water on him and remove when he stops walking.
         
        06-13-2013, 02:26 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    "As for the treats, I am a big believer in ending on a good note. I don't see them as a reward, I see them as something that my horse likes and enjoys."

    Likes and enjoys is fine, BUT, do not think for one moment the treats will have anything to do with ending on a good note. In the time it takes to give the horse the treat, the horse has forgotten what it is he's being rewarded for. This is what gets so many folks into problems. A horse's memory of an incident is less than 3 seconds. Anything you do outside of that time frame is a new incident or occurrence.

    I totally disagree with having a helper. Do this right, with a spray nozzle on a hose, and stay out of his reach, and you do not need a helper. A helper only muddies the waters, as far as the horse is concerned. The helper is just one more distraction the horse will pay attention to. You want his undivided attention.
         
        06-13-2013, 02:43 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Horse has your number, and more than likely is also doing other things that many of us would nip in the bud too.

    But for this?

    Chain shank over the nose, and correct them the first instant you get attitude. And immediately go back to what you are doing.

    And make sure you have water on spray/fan rather than full blown stream too. And do not get it in face, I see people do that all the time and drives me up a wall. Sponging face works.

    But until the horse realizes fun and games and threats have a consequence, horse will continue to act up.

    Also? If you are a babier, always talking to horse, telling it not to be scared or so on and so forth? Quit it.

    That alone will make problems.
         
        06-13-2013, 04:02 PM
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    "As for the treats, I am a big believer in ending on a good note. I don't see them as a reward, I see them as something that my horse likes and enjoys."

    Likes and enjoys is fine, BUT, do not think for one moment the treats will have anything to do with ending on a good note. In the time it takes to give the horse the treat, the horse has forgotten what it is he's being rewarded for. This is what gets so many folks into problems. A horse's memory of an incident is less than 3 seconds. Anything you do outside of that time frame is a new incident or occurrence.

    I totally disagree with having a helper. Do this right, with a spray nozzle on a hose, and stay out of his reach, and you do not need a helper. A helper only muddies the waters, as far as the horse is concerned. The helper is just one more distraction the horse will pay attention to. You want his undivided attention.
    To each their own. What I do works quite well for me. I personally will never wash a horse without a helper. That person, like anything works as an extension of me, not a human hitching post. They are there to correct and guide, and yes, even distract, allowing me to focus on the task at hand. If that horse swings his butt around and knocks me down(never have had this happen), or something else happens, that person is there to correct immediately, not have me floundering trying to wrangle hose, horse and tools. That other person essentially divides the workload, reduces stress and waste. We each know our role and work as a team. I am glad you are coordinated enough to juggle the horse, the hose, the shampoo, brushes and everything you need all at once.

    As for treats, again, to each their own. I am quite fond of doing things my horses enjoy. Not as reward, but just to see them enjoy it. They do not look for or expect treats, nor are pushy about them. After something unnecessary and unpleasant like baths, I see no harm in it. But, again, that is just me.
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        06-13-2013, 05:51 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    " I am glad you are coordinated enough to juggle the horse, the hose, the shampoo, brushes and everything you need all at once."

    The issue is not being able to juggle, etc. The question was how to stop the "world war 3" at bath time. A helper is a major hinderance when trying to get one to accept the basics, ie, getting wet. In the beginning you want the horse to focus only on the handler, DO NOT WANT OR NEED, any other distractions, like a helper. After you've master the basics, then a helper should not get in the way. The beginning starts with getting wet. No brushes, no shampoo, etc, JUST WATER.

    If it makes you feel good to give your horses treats, that's fine. Just don't expect it to help the horse, it won't.
         

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