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post #1 of 17 Old 04-15-2013, 11:45 PM Thread Starter
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Is it worth it?

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A friend of mine is leasing a young horse two days a week. This horse is four and has seven leasers. They range in age from 9-50 and most are inexperienced horse people(i know i know, i have a hard time coping with it as well). This horse needs so much work, in the ring and out. I want to help my friend work and train this horse but is anything we do on those two days a week going to make a difference because he has so many people leasing? I am more then willing to put work into him but cannot get everyone to be consistent. Opinions would be muchly appreciated!
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post #2 of 17 Old 04-15-2013, 11:58 PM
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I think your friend should lease a different horse unless she's just going to ride this one to work on her riding skills and not worry about the rest. If everyone is not going to handle and ride the horse in the same way, then you can't expect much progress in its knowledge. Whatever you end up teaching it, the next rider is probably unteaching.

It's nuts to have that many leasers for one horse, IMO.
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post #3 of 17 Old 04-16-2013, 12:00 AM
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Oh boy....thinking of my horse who turned four today....I am not a trainer, only have trained my own horses and we are no more than trail/pleasure riders having fun. Nothing professional. My horse could handle doses of given some little rides to other people. Even though she is an extremely mild mannered horse, I am told she is apt to try to challenge at any moment because she is young??? My horse also has not had any professional training which probably makes a difference too. But even a young horse that has been sent to a trainer may possibly get confused with so many riders???? Idk...I'm curious to hear the others opinions.
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post #4 of 17 Old 04-16-2013, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
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Thats what I was thinking too. He has the worst ground manners ever and will walk right over you. Also is horrible with food and has no respect. She is just working on her riding skills like you said but its so hard not to want to do anything with this horse. I was hoping someone would reassure me that it was making a difference lol
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post #5 of 17 Old 04-16-2013, 12:13 AM Thread Starter
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My next question with this would be about join up. I know that the other leasers have done it with him. I have seen it done, but never tried it myself but people are telling me thats what we should do with him. Is that something that more then one person should be doing with him? Will it help with his respect problems?
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I'd be inclined to stay well away, if I couldn't change his lot, which it sounds like you can't. You can teach him 'manners' that he'll learn apply to you, if no one else. If he doesn't get consistent lessons/handling it will take him longer to learn new behaviour, or forego old, especially if any of his 'rude' behaviour works for him with others. As for 'join up', if you want to teach him in that manner to follow you & you know what you're doing & won't be pushing him hard(no fast/small/lots of circles with an immature bod), can't see why not. It won't help with general manners/respect though.
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I would run from this one, honestly. What is wrong with the owner would be my next question. A four yr old horse with 7 people all trying to teach it. UGH. Poor frustrated horse!

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post #8 of 17 Old 04-16-2013, 08:06 AM
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Money is what is wrong with owner.

Your friend needs to get out of this, it is so wrong on so many levels...

And just like too many cooks spoil the broth?

Too many "trainers" ruin the horse.

And the one paying the price is the horse.

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post #9 of 17 Old 04-16-2013, 08:59 AM
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I would tell your friend to run far and run fast from this one. Sounds like a liability waiting to happen. Seven people riding a 4 year old screams lameness issues in the future. It also screams confused, uneducated horse waiting to explode and hurt somebody.
Just my .02.
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Seven lessees and one four y/o horse? Disaster in the making. Your friend needs to RUN not walk away from this 'deal'. I'd also like to take a horsewhip to the owner. Pretty obvious the horse's welfare is not at the top of their list.
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