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    12-12-2012, 09:33 PM
  #11
Trained
I won't even address the 4 year old comment...You all that know me will know what I'll say.

If she was a barrel horse those rollbacks will probably just make her hotter by the way. Most of them do get hotter. Sherry Cervi tells her students that rollback make them hot as well. My three year old is the only horse I have ever met who doesn't get hot from it.

I would just send her to the trainer if you can afford it. Easier that way.
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    12-12-2012, 09:53 PM
  #12
Yearling
I bought her from the person who was running her on barrels. She was only on them for a few months as I know the other owner only had her long enough to retrain her and sell her... all in all about three months. I personally am not a barrel person and have never run her on barrels at all. She gets EXTREMELY hot during rollbacks. Had to do them for a rodeo queens contest and she gets really hot when she thinks im asking her for one

And yes QHRider! Squiggy sounds EXACTALLY like my Rosie. If I even THINK forward she tries to take off with me. She's been the one who trained me out of riding forward at all. I generally try to use my seat to ease her down in her speed but today she wasnt having ANY of it. Any time I tried she began kicking and bucking.

If I KNEW a trainer could help her I would be sending her yesterday. Im just worried a trainer wouldnt be able to do anything for her that I couldnt do myself. I can understand retraining a horse that WANTS to conserve energy.. heck I retrain horses off the track but this mare doesnt WANT to slow down and fights me over it. I've never had one do that before.
     
    12-12-2012, 09:54 PM
  #13
twp
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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
I won't even address the 4 year old comment...You all that know me will know what I'll say.

If she was a barrel horse those rollbacks will probably just make her hotter by the way. Most of them do get hotter. Sherry Cervi tells her students that rollback make them hot as well. My three year old is the only horse I have ever met who doesn't get hot from it.

I would just send her to the trainer if you can afford it. Easier that way.

Please do.

Rollbacks never made any of my horses Hotter.. Not saying it isn't possible, just saying that I don't see how.

I can see, how too much sugars, and not enough space to run makes them hotter though..
     
    12-12-2012, 09:57 PM
  #14
Yearling
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Originally Posted by boots    
Saddlebag made a good suggestion. I also use half halts, transitions, circles, anything that a particular horse may respond to.

How much turn out does the horse get? In how big an area? What's her diet?

She'll truly enjoy doing things a different way, too, once she learns it.
She's on pasture 24/7 with 3 other horses that's around 15 acres. All she eats is grass. No grain.
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    12-12-2012, 10:00 PM
  #15
twp
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Grass this time of year usually contain more sugars.
     
    12-12-2012, 10:01 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by twp    
Please do.

Rollbacks never made any of my horses Hotter.. Not saying it isn't possible, just saying that I don't see how.

I can see, how too much sugars, and not enough space to run makes them hotter though..
With Rosie its like she is so used to turning a barrel that when I ask her to do a roll back or turn a small circle when she picks up speed she tries to treat such situations like she should be taking off from a barrel. The more I do it the hotter she gets and the more it aggravates her when she isnt allowed to run.
     
    12-12-2012, 10:02 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Grass this time of year usually contain more sugars.
Yes but she's like this year round. With or without feed, hay, grass. This is just her personality. Always has been.
     
    12-12-2012, 10:12 PM
  #18
Trained
"Please do" ? The four year old thing or the trainer thing? I don't know which you are referring to.

My mare who is a very calm reiner normally, if we go do rollbacks she will get jiggy and a little hot headed. You'd be surprised. Same with my other barrel horses I've had as well as the ones I have ridden and worked with, and my trainer of 40+ years says the same.

This horse Sherry is working with is hot like that, and you can hear her say in the beginning it makes them hot so you have to be careful. Barrel horses are a totally differant ball game than a lot of others.


Most of them, out of a rollback, are going to fire. Like a rocket. Or at least try too. A good still shot of the firing I have is here is my colt at the moment. Not many have the mind though to come back and chill out like he does after though.



If she is a naturally hot horse the reining would probably do her good. Some horses are just flat out hot, and that's how it is. Doesn't mean they have to be uncontrollable. If you want, you could start teaching her the one rein stop. Clinton Anderson has an episode of him working with an OTTB which shows a good one rein stop exercise for shutting the horse down when they go too fast.
     
    12-12-2012, 10:18 PM
  #19
Yearling
Have tried Clintons one reined stop. Didnt see much improvement with her however only tried it one lesson. Might be good to go back and work on.

And sadly.. that mare Sherry is on looks like an Angel compared to Rosie. As in the second she does a rollback she's GONE. Id love to trade!!
     
    12-12-2012, 10:33 PM
  #20
Trained
Keeping in mind Sherry has worked with Chappi though, and it's hard to find someone who knows barrel horses like Sherry. My guess is the horse was started wrong on the pattern and went crazy. Not a fun thing.
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