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        12-12-2012, 09:57 PM
      #31
    Yearling
    The trainers I've been talking too have won quite a few color world championships this year and are in the top 10 NRHA with one colt he's been showing. I am considering emailing him to see his stance on the situation and see if he thinks there is anything he can do for her.
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        12-12-2012, 10:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by TexasBlaze    
    The trainers I've been talking too have won quite a few color world championships this year and are in the top 10 NRHA with one colt he's been showing. I am considering emailing him to see his stance on the situation and see if he thinks there is anything he can do for her.
    Definitely worth a try
         
        12-12-2012, 10:31 PM
      #33
    twp
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    I'm not claiming to be a trainer, but if my horse thought it needed to take off after doing roll backs, I would first work on stopping.. Not one rein stops.. When I ask my horse to stop I mean STOP!!

    I would work on slide stops first off, not for the sliding, I just like my horse to stop when I ask Immediately!

    I would start at the walk, I usually don't like giving a virbal command, but when I do, I just say "stop" then I would sit back in the seat, push my legs forward, and bump the reins one time.. If there is not an immediate stop, I will back the horse a few steps, and continue to do this untill the horse stops immediately, then just wait a few seconds before telling them it's okay to move forward again.. would continue this with the trot, lope, etc.. when the horse stops well through all gaits, I would then work on tje rollbacks.. If your horse is getting hot, and taking off, I would immediately Stop, back, wait, then do it again, untill the horse got it right.. Basically, your horse needs to learn patience..


    No offense, but if I was going to learn from a barrel racer, it wouldn't be cherri, she is a good rider..don't get me wrong.. but she needs to work on that first barrel ..she tends to swing out too wide.. I would like advice from charmaine james any day..
         
        12-12-2012, 10:42 PM
      #34
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by twp    
    I'm not claiming to be a trainer, but if my horse thought it needed to take off after doing roll backs, I would first work on stopping.. Not one rein stops.. When I ask my horse to stop I mean STOP!!

    I would work on slide stops first off, not for the sliding, I just like my horse to stop when I ask Immediately!

    I would start at the walk, I usually don't like giving a virbal command, but when I do, I just say "stop" then I would sit back in the seat, push my legs forward, and bump the reins one time.. If there is not an immediate stop, I will back the horse a few steps, and continue to do this untill the horse stops immediately, then just wait a few seconds before telling them it's okay to move forward again.. would continue this with the trot, lope, etc.. when the horse stops well through all gaits, I would then work on tje rollbacks.. If your horse is getting hot, and taking off, I would immediately Stop, back, wait, then do it again, untill the horse got it right.. Basically, your horse needs to learn patience..


    No offense, but if I was going to learn from a barrel racer, it wouldn't be cherri, she is a good rider..don't get me wrong.. but she needs to work on that first barrel ..she tends to swing out too wide.. I would like advice from charmaine james any day..
    Only problem with that is my mare has a crazy good stop at all gaits at the mear uterance of the word "whoa". She sometimes thinks and "easy" means the same thing too. And I did just that when I taught her rollbacks. I actually took her VERY slow when I did and started at a walk, said whoa, forehand turn, then trot out. She's got great form in her rollbacks. This however hasnt helped her at all with her love of running through me.
         
        12-12-2012, 10:51 PM
      #35
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    Originally Posted by TexasBlaze    
    Only problem with that is my mare has a crazy good stop at all gaits at the mear uterance of the word "whoa". She sometimes thinks and "easy" means the same thing too. And I did just that when I taught her rollbacks. I actually took her VERY slow when I did and started at a walk, said whoa, forehand turn, then trot out. She's got great form in her rollbacks. This however hasnt helped her at all with her love of running through me.
    In that case, I would do a rollback.. Wait.. then walk out.. Sounds like you trotting her out is the problem there.
         
        12-12-2012, 10:55 PM
      #36
    Yearling
    I just don't see how this would translate over to her loping. She can walk and trot on a loose rein all day long with no problems. I understand that its making her wait but I don't see how that translates over to her loping problem.

    I do a lot of two tracking with her at a trot as well to make her think about her trot. That actually helped her slow down her trot a LOT but I don't have a big enough arena to ask for a two track at a lope.
         
        12-12-2012, 10:58 PM
      #37
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    How are your lope departures?
         
        12-12-2012, 10:59 PM
      #38
    Yearling
    Most days they're fine. They even start off slow and get faster as she goes... however today I got three or four kicks and bucks out of each one. Just depends on her mood.
         
        12-12-2012, 11:01 PM
      #39
    twp
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    Originally Posted by TexasBlaze    
    I just don't see how this would translate over to her loping. She can walk and trot on a loose rein all day long with no problems. I understand that its making her wait but I don't see how that translates over to her loping problem.

    I do a lot of two tracking with her at a trot as well to make her think about her trot. That actually helped her slow down her trot a LOT but I don't have a big enough arena to ask for a two track at a lope.
    It's an issue, that she thinks it's okay to just break out into a lope, when a lope wasn't cued.. What gait are you in before you're doing a rollback?
         
        12-12-2012, 11:06 PM
      #40
    Yearling
    Trot. Actually if I trot her into a rollback she trots out of it, however with an impressive speed increase. To the point where I've had people ask me where I found a gaited mare.
         

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