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post #21 of 26 Old 08-20-2013, 10:20 AM
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I agree with you all BUT I think I was misunderstand re: "trying" the rider. I have bought/sold several horses that were retreads either bc they were spoiled and misbehaved then sold, or, frightened and acted out, then sold. These horses had some potential in the eyes of low level trainers, really cow punchers who have "turned them around". They ride for the trainers but are looking for a way out from anyone who doesn't either install confidence and/or establish leadership. If the next buyer does neither, in my experience, the horse bucks, rears, plants feet and explodes, etc. in an effort to NOT repeat the original bad training experience. We do the same if we've been beat up in the workplace, so it's understandable.
After I was thrown in 2004, I lost confidence and I bought a few horses that I might have turned around when I had my lesson program bc everyone had to work or be sold, AND, I was much more athletic in my 30's than in my 50's. Each was okay for awhile, then started to refuse work.
I think that THIS mare is as Cherie has described.
I think if you buy a horse that demonstrates these behaviors, you NEED a trainer or a training method. I don't think that she is vicious and horses don't have agendas. Horses just want their work to be pleasant and when trained correctly they enjoy the endorphins just like humans athletes.
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post #22 of 26 Old 08-20-2013, 11:27 AM
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I agree corporal - we used to get lots of horses come in for reschooling that had obviously been bullied into submission by someone rather than trained to work willingly and the moment they got with someone that wasn't aggressive in their riding they began to act up really badly
I can also see Cherie's reasoning as that description completely fits Looby's behavior when we first got her and she was very much like the OP's horse
The rehab. technique she suggests IMO would work for both
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post #23 of 26 Old 08-20-2013, 02:06 PM
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I agree Cherie, 100%. arabs typically detest being shoved around, and resent treatment they perceive is unfair. I don't think she is unpredictable at all, just done trying for humans that don't listen to her. I had a gelding identical. A friend picked him up at auction, he was run through with a halter on. I took one look at his papers and knew something was up. he was VERY well bred, gorgeous, and fantastically well built. I finally ended up talking to his old owner, and he was started for show, deemed insane by his owners and sold. They told me not to go near him, as he would kill me. He actually turned into a very good trail horse, and I sold him to a high profile endurance rider.

My advice would be to get her out of the arena, and cover some long, sweaty miles.
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post #24 of 26 Old 08-20-2013, 02:09 PM
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My advice would be to get her out of the arena, and cover some long, sweaty miles.
Agreed, JUST take a friend along, just in case. =D

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post #25 of 26 Old 08-20-2013, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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There are a few trails by the barn. I may have to talk to the owner and see if we can haul out and do that maybe a few times this month. I'd hope that it would get her mind off of things, and make her want to learn, like you guys have said. It makes sense, because every time someone rides her, it's constant work to get her show ready, which probably isn't making it fun for her.

I went out today and did all ground work. I lunged her, asking for many directional changes and gait changes. She responded well and only appeared frustrated when asked for the first transition into the canter, but after that it was smooth sailing. We also worked on some showmanship, move off of pressure, and all of that good stuff. Her owner was busy, but I'll talk to him within the next day or two. :) I'll see if I can post a picture or two today also.
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post #26 of 26 Old 08-21-2013, 08:19 PM
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Is there another horse someone can ride that is an experienced good broke horse- to ride with you on trails untill she is less explosive?

You definitely want to work with her in the arena untill shes calmed down a bit and trusts you as her leader before taking her out alone on trails-- its a little more unpredictable on the trail then the arena- if she is real flighty she is going to flip her *stuff* with you if a bird flies up or deer jumps out on yall.

with a buddy she has a horse for guidance to look at and learn from in situations like that and helps with training a hyper horse-- its nice to have a big calm horse to stick them behind too, lol.

shell always be 'excitable' since shes a hotblooded horse but she can be trained to listen to you (the leader) in a bad situation and be fine for any level rider one day.

It all boils down to her listening to the riders commands and not overriding your judgements -once you get to the point where she listens to you no matter what- you made it.. thats the goal-- good luck on your journey and keep us in the know- please.
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