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        11-23-2009, 05:24 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    I have a horse with a cross-cantering problem. Just make sure to sit back, have their head slightly to the inside of the circle (just to the point that you can see their eye), take your outside leg back and your inside leg closer to the girth and give a slight squeeze. That should help. Oh and make sure not to drop the reins in the transition.
         
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        11-23-2009, 06:45 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Hmmm...I was told to bring their head towards the outside of the circle (towards the fence, if you will) and to give pressure with the outside leg to push their hindquarters out towards the center of the ring. Is this right??
         
        11-23-2009, 06:52 PM
      #13
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by PechosGoldenChance    
    Hmmm...I was told to bring their head towards the outside of the circle (towards the fence, if you will) and to give pressure with the outside leg to push their hindquarters out towards the center of the ring. Is this right??
    Actually I was told the same thing too by very successfull show jumper trainer. Not to bring the head though but just tip the nose to outside and send with the outside leg.

    Yes, I read about the circle too and want to give it a try. Will see... :)

    It's been very interesting discussion so far, so please share more experience.
         
        11-23-2009, 07:21 PM
      #14
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
    RD, could you explain it better, please? I mean HOW you do it easy? I have a feeling they just don't understand and even though I bring them back to trot and try again they don't get it.

    Kevin already answered it. I always teach side passing right from the beginning so my guys side pass freely before teaching leads.
    If I want a left lead I use my right leg to ask for the lead. If I want a right lead I use my left leg,
    So back to asking for the left lead.
    My left leg is on the girth, my right leg is behind the girth asking for the horse to move his hind quarters to the left or to the inside of the circle. I keep his front end where is it and tilt his head to the outside or right in this case and with the same left leg that is back behind the girth I bump him with that leg, kiss to him and he pushes off of the hind end into the left lead.
    The left lead is leading so to speak with the hind end crabbed to the left or inside of the circle, the front is crabbed to the outside burying his right side.
    If you want to see how this feels pretend you are the horse. Crab your body or shoulders the same as I asked the horse to and punch out with your left arm, then punch out with the right. See how difficult it is to punch in the direction you want to go with the right arm??? It is uncomfortable with anything but the left.

    I do it the same as Kevin

    I only ask for a lope from a stand still or walk, never a trot for other reasons. I don't work in arena, only open spaces and if you do leads in a certain area he is anticipating the lope. This helps and from a stand still all I need to do is touch one flank or the other and he is already in the lope mode and with just this simple cue he quickly learns to swing his butt in the disired direction and lope off from the hind end.
         
        11-23-2009, 07:22 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Try not to lean to the inside, try to stay in the center, or if you do lean, lean to the outside. If your weight is on his left side, he'll probly pick up the right lead and vice versa.
         
        11-24-2009, 07:17 AM
      #16
    Showing
    Thank you, All! Those are very beneficial advices and explanations!
         
        11-24-2009, 10:45 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    To add to what I said earlier, horses in the field galloping and cantering around with usually pick up the correct lead, it is usually when the rider is off balance that the horse tries to compensate by switching leads, picking up the wrong lead, or cross cantering.
         
        11-24-2009, 05:31 PM
      #18
    Foal
    I have major trouble getting Dougie to pick up his left lead [he's a strange one. He can get his right lead fine, but not his left] and I will defintly be trying some of these suggestions.
         
        11-24-2009, 05:42 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Hmm. I've never been taught to put a horse's head on the outside of the circle. I was taught by every trainer I've ever been with to put their head either straight or slightly inside. Has worked for me so far... but I'm interested to try it the other way!
         
        11-24-2009, 05:59 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smarby    
    I have major trouble getting Dougie to pick up his left lead [he's a strange one. He can get his right lead fine, but not his left] and I will defintly be trying some of these suggestions.
    I have the same problem with my POA. She goes right into her left lead but it is very hard to get her in her Right lead. I will def. Be trying the suggestions.
         

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