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post #1 of 8 Old 09-06-2013, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
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Yeilding to pressure is not the problem?

so i have this horse and she is really pushy. she tries to walk all over me. but she does it intentionaly. she yeilds to pressure really well. (we are still on ground work) i can move her all over and i keep her moving when she gets in my space. but its like she is doing it intentionally.
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post #2 of 8 Old 09-06-2013, 10:34 AM
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Of course she is doing it intentionally. Classic example of the way a horse behaves when they are in the lead possition. Watch what happens if a horse invades the lead mares space, they get told to back off, in no uncertain terms.

The easiest way to deal with it is to stop being nice, and make her stay out of your space. Clinton anderson has some good ground work for gaining respect, I highly recomend looking him up, his book is pretty good as well, with step by step instructions.
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that is what i've been doing. shes gotten alot better. just seeing what everyone else would do.
she comes in and i make darn sure she gets out of it.
for many years she was the lead person in the whole family that owned her.
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i actually have his begginer and intermidiat dvd sets that i work from. plus a few now worries dvds
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This is part of the reason why people keep talking about experience, and how you can't beat it with book learning, videos or chatting on a forum.

It's great that she is yielding to pressure, good start, and so needed, but it sounds like you have a respect issue going on. There are two sorts of yielding to pressure, there is the nice calm training one, increasing pressure and release, patience is key, waiting it out until you get that yield so you can release.

The other sort of pressure is when you are generally handling her, leading, tying her up, just generally being with her, if she invades your bubble at any of those times you do not need increasing pressure, you need a number 10 size meltdown. Now what that meltdown looks like depends on the horse. With my Emmy who is very sensitive, I just go 'momma bear' on her, turn full on facing, make myself as big as possible and literally growl out her while advancing, she pretty quick remembers her manners. Being she is low end of the pecking order she is usually very apologetic of making a mistake.

Big Bert was the other end of the scale, if she invaded I had to get after her physically, either with a crop, leadrope, hand, whatever, she was dominant mare, and I had to out mare her, the only way that she understood. She was not in the least apologetic, but she did remain respectful until the next challenge, but they became less and less as we worked with her.
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I think if you're using the CA DVDs then you are on the right track. Just remember that the new rules about manners apply all the time. Don't let her get away with something once because yore in a rush - do it right, every time.
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when i first got her she was so bad that she would literly run me over. i would take her out and all she would do is put her head down to she waits for my signal before she drops her head to grab a bite. she also respects my space alot more than when i got her and only gets in it when she is getting "boared" so i make her work more than turn her out. she tries to stear so i turn her the other direction.
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Sounds like you've made a lot of progress with her and are doing many right things. Rome wasn't built in a day, keep the patience and the good work :)

We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. -Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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