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  • My pony is charging at me when i feed her
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    02-13-2007, 10:19 AM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by mokinho
:roll: All the way home I was so nervous about working with her tonight
This stands out to me. I don't think your role of leadership has been established. She needs to understand that trusting your judgment is safe, and this will never be achieved if you are not confident with yourself to begin with. I believe she has picked up on your nervousness and taken the initiative to fulfill the alpha role, telling you when to back off while threatening you with a potential kick. It is essential that you find the confidence you need while handling her. If there is uneasiness and lack of trust, a secure relationship won't be built. So, my question to you is what will make you feel secure about this situation? Your role of leadership should be there regardless if a whip is. What can you do to calm yourself before attempting to calm and convince her to listen to you?
     
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    02-13-2007, 12:31 PM
  #12
Foal
Two spectrums of the fence

Being nervous and having no confidence are two different species. I was nervous of getting kicked, pummeled in the head with a hoof or stomped on, or bitten...


I’ve been fortunate that I’ve only been dragged, kicked and bit in my life time and the horse that bit me I bit her back and in all the years her and I were together she never ever once bit me ever again. She was 4 at the time and she passed on just last year.

I have full confidence in myself. If I didn't I would have considered selling her and getting another horse that has been people softened.

You can't get too aggressive with a horse that shows these tendencies, because if you back them in a corner they will come out fighting and that is most definitely something to be nervous about. If I only knew what was going on in her head it would be so much easier

She and I will be the best of friends one day it’s just going to take some time. I have to adjust everything I know and do just to make that happen. Everyone has given me great advice here and it has worked very well.
     
    02-13-2007, 07:50 PM
  #13
Yearling
I'm sorry if I offended you.. I was saying my thoughts on the situation. It's hard to judge from an internet stance, but it's just what I collected. Good luck with things and keep us posted.
     
    02-13-2007, 10:33 PM
  #14
Foal
No offense taken

No offense taken.....I love to communicate experiences and beliefs with those that have the same interest as mine because I feel they are my greatest teachers! Sooooooo as I tell all my friends please don't sugar coat any thing, tell it how it is and I will chew on the information to make life better. It's not only me involved here, but the innocent life of a confused horse and if it doesn't get managed she will forever be an unwanted horse all her life. I've seen so many horses sold over and over and over because they are unmanageable. Thank you for your insight, input and honesty.

I hope I'm not boring people with my day to day diary on this issue.

Tonight I was held up at work, so I got home an hour after feeding time.... SHAME on WORK!!!!

They were waiting at the gate, and nervousness was setting in again. You know that knot in the stomach feeling? I pushed it aside and didn't miss a lick. Put my horse clothes on, fed the barn cats that hang around the house and grabbed my riding crop and lead line. I moved so fast Rasha didn't know what was coming. Oh it was all good. I walked through the gate and moved towards both of them with strong intent, but with softness! They both moved towards me and we met in the middle. It’s dark here now so it was hard to see who was who, because they are both black as night. The yard light lit their halters so I was able to make out the colors of each halter. Rasha red and Raina purple....Thanks to colored halters this saved me the time of figuring out who was who. I reached out and clipped Rasha to the lead line. Yeah!!!!! Success. We walked side by side to the barn. It happened so fast I didn't give her time to think out her maneuver to dominate me. Hahahahahaha.... I play this over and over in my mind all day of how I'm going to manage her. This is a good thing, because I don't think about the problems at work. She occupies my mind on a constant basis. My new goal in life. is to become inseparable with her. As we walked to the barn I did some fast but positive bonding. We stopped and walked and stopped and walked and she was very respectful with each step...mmmmmmm I think I won't hand feed her until she has total respect and understands the people horse relationship!!!! Tomorrow nights plan… clip her up to the lead line and do some turns along with the walk and stop program!!!

Here are the girls!
     
    02-19-2007, 08:56 PM
  #15
Foal
Life is much better these days

I've been working with Rasha's manners and she no longer treats me like a horse. In fact, to my surprise she eagerly awaits me.

Yesterday I put their feed in thier feeders and I thought I heard one of my cats that hasn't been around awhile, so I started calling his name in a singing voice and Rasha pulls her head out of her feed and walks over to the stall gate where I was standing and puts her head over with ears forward Man oh man was I pleased!!!!

In fact these past few days she hasn't taken the rash attitude I've experiended a week-ago.... What a relief.
     
    02-21-2007, 05:53 PM
  #16
Foal
I had the same exact problem. I bought a whip and started using it. Every time she would turn to me I would make the no sound aaaaeeeee and smack it at her. I never touched her and do not move your feet. Unless of course you think she will actually kick you. Even if she kicks at you. Whom ever moves looses!!! It was hard for me to do that but I did it and it quit very fast!! With the charging do the same I actually would take a step towards her and raise my chest and make the sound and raise my whip up in the air to show that I am taller than her. And she quit that too after a few times but it went of for a few weeks before I got brave enough to show her I was boss. Glad to hear she is doing better!! Keep us updated!!
     
    02-25-2007, 02:32 PM
  #17
Foal
Tip: I have broke ponies in. If you spend time just sitting with your horse and letting it get used to you so you are its best friend it will pay off. Take em for walks make sure you do everything with that horse it will get used to you. Grooming works well. Don't use a whip unless you have tried first. If a horse charges at you you DO NOT move. I no it sounds stupid all your horse will do is stop at you. You need to show him who is boss.
     
    02-25-2007, 02:55 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by proeventer
tip: if a horse charges at you you DO NOT move. I no it sounds stupid all your horse will do is stop at you. You need to show him who is boss.
whoa.. completely disagree with this.
     
    03-01-2007, 11:24 PM
  #19
Foal
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

If I have an 800+ lb horse charging me with mouth open....... oh yeah they will get smacked!

Not necessarily will they stop. Unless you know what is going on in their head and what their main intent is DO NOT stand there. You WILL get hurt it could even be as bad as fatally!

Trust me in the wild when horses interact with each other in this manner the horse getting charged will strike out either using the front legs or the hind legs at the horse charging or if they are intimidated the horse getting charged will RUN away to avoid getting hurt!
     

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