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    04-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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Your Experience: Stallion Into a Gelding

There is a lusitanto/andalusian stallion at my barn that I will probably work with in the not so distant future. He is 9-10 years old. What are your experiences with gelding an older stallion? This guy has a couple of mouthing issues, typical stallion behavior but is otherwise (from what I've seen) fairly well behaved. Once the owners geld him, do you think he will stop being mouthy or have they waited too long to geld him for that to be possible? I believe in treating stallions like geldings or mares, except that you have to be completely aware of where they are, never turn your back, etc. What have you experienced in this kind of situation?
     
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    04-20-2012, 11:21 PM
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Weanling
All I can say is ITS JUST NUTS! Lmao
     
    04-20-2012, 11:23 PM
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Started
I think the mouthy behavior isn't going to be changed by gelding.That behavior starts when they are youngsters more so with colts.If it wasn't addressed then & corrected it is a learned ingrained behavior now that will need diligent training to try & undo. If they never nipped that behavior in the butt by now do you think it is going to change??. I gelded a stallion at 5 yrs,he went on to be a great gelding but he was well behaved, pretty mellow stud & never was mouthy. He integrated to a herd setting & did well.
     
    04-20-2012, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TimberRidgeRanch    
All I can say is ITS JUST NUTS! Lmao
not exactly sure what this meant but I've seen some pretty good transitions with older stallions being gelded. We have a foundation QH who was gelded two years ago at the same age as the stallion you'll be working with. He is 12 years old now and has completely transitioned down into 'oh hey girls, mind if I join you?' versus the 'do you see me? Hey, hey pretty ladies. Do you see me? Check out my muscles.' It took him about two months to really calm down, as it takes a while for their hormones to decrease and balance out, but after that we really didn't have a problem with him. He can be turned out with the other geldings and mares, works alongside them, and tends to be very gentlemanly. Ofcourse, he was well behaved as a stud too, and I don't remember him ever being really mouthy- just loud. So I don't know with your guy.

I'd talk to your vet about it, and definitely make sure that you keep him away from the mares (especially ones who like to show themselves ) for a good three months or so, then gradually introduce them, and never let him get away with bad behavior. Otherwise I think you'd be good to go!

Was he used as breeding stock?
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    04-20-2012, 11:40 PM
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Painted- Yes, I have heard of their behavior staying the same because it became a habit and was never corrected. He was born outside of the US and then the BO's bought him but were never completely serious about teaching him not to be mouthy. He doesn't bite (at least not with me) but he can get lippy.

Endiku- It's great to hear that it was a success for you :) He has actually only been bred once or twice, which I think is a good thing in this situation. I think it will make the transition easier :)
     
    04-20-2012, 11:42 PM
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Absolutely. The less they think they can get away with, the better. Buddy (the gelding I was talking about) was bred consistently at his old home, so I actually expected his transition to be far worse than it was. You just always have to keep an eye on them and remember that they had different lifestyles before their gelding, so behavioral problems are even bigger of a deal than with a gelding or mare.
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    04-21-2012, 12:16 AM
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When I was a kid, my mother bought my sister a 14 year old QH gelding who came without papers. Boy was he a pain in the rear. His barn name became Trouble. Several years later, we ran into someone who used to show this horse when he was a breeding stallion. Apparently this horse, Nemo Chuck, had been a reining horse, then went into dressage about 8 or 9. We were told that he usually covered 8 to 10 mares a year. The guy lost track of him when he was sold to the guy we bought him from at the age of 12 - he was still a stallion at that point.

Until the day he died in his early 20s, Trouble acted like a stud. We kept all the horses together in the same pasture and he bred every mare every month - it was a VERY HAPPY herd.

Every horse I have ever gelded has been by the age of two - because if I want a stallion behavior, I will keep the horse a stallion.
     
    04-21-2012, 02:24 AM
  #8
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Originally Posted by yadlim    
Every horse I have ever gelded has been by the age of two - because if I want a stallion behavior, I will keep the horse a stallion.
I agree with that statement. I however, do not have control over the fact that he was not gelded at a young age. I wish that he had been, but what's done is done. I will be working with him mostly after he is gelded.
     
    04-21-2012, 02:40 AM
  #9
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I just gelded my 9 y/o stallion 3 weeks ago and he's still in the healing process (it's a lil rougher on the bigger boys). Granted he acted like a gelding before but I'll keep you updated on any changes I see after getting him back into work. :)
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    04-21-2012, 03:03 AM
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Thanks Poco :)
     

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