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post #1 of 20 Old 04-04-2012, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Your opinion on physical correction

Do you think that it is ok to "hit" a horse. Now when I say hit I don't mean hit, whip, slash, like abuse in any way. I mean for example, if you have a horse who swings thier head all around and even in your face a little when you put on the bridle (problem I am working on w/ my horse). Is it ok to bump with force their face away like with your elbow or fist?
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post #2 of 20 Old 04-04-2012, 10:52 PM
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Yep, I do. Example, if while I'm tightening up the girth and the horse swings it's head around in an unpleasant way, my elbow comes up and connects with the horse's jaw. I don't put any "jab" or any real "force" into elbowing them, they just "run into it" Same would go for bridling or anything else...

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post #3 of 20 Old 04-04-2012, 10:53 PM
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I'm going to keep it short and simple. Yes, I do.
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post #4 of 20 Old 04-04-2012, 10:57 PM
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NO, I give the horse a time out! Of course, I physically correct a misbehaving horse, if not, you end up with a brat.
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post #5 of 20 Old 04-04-2012, 10:58 PM
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Yes. I should be the one making the horse move, not the other way around. Having to dodge a flying head is dangerous. There are somethings that are better handled (in my opinion) with patience, such as a horse who tosses their head up and down *not AT me* when bridling, and a few other things that I believe to generally be caused by poor training, an injury, or a mishap with a green rider, but a horse who puts me in danger or threatens me gets the elbow, hand, whip, whatever, into the nearest body part. (I do generally avoid the head, unless the head is coming at me.)

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post #6 of 20 Old 04-05-2012, 01:35 AM
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Can't imagine why your horse is doing this when bridling, very puzzled.

I would not pop first off, if first time. If past third, then horse would get a physical correction, and told to stand still, or be still.

I don't do fidgeting horses.

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post #7 of 20 Old 04-05-2012, 02:07 AM
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There may be a time and place, though I question the necessity of doing it as much as it's done on the whole in the horse world. I've done it quite a bit more than I care to admit to trying to 'make' things happen and it's never really worked out that well. Even if I succeeded in getting the horse to do whatever 'it' was it was a hollow victory as they'd just get withdrawn and sour over it.

I tend to believe that if a person is a good enough horseman, a good enough rider, and really knows how to move around a horse on the ground (and is not afraid of the horse hurting them) that they'll rarely have to use force because they'll rarely be getting themselves into situations where they feel that they have to. I'm beginning to suspect that more times than not, being in that situation means that the human missed something that happened beforehand.
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post #8 of 20 Old 04-05-2012, 02:16 AM
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Horses kick and bite each other to establish dominance. A little slap or bump from you isn't hurting them, while still getting your point across and keeping you safe. I don't think there's any harm in it, unless you're doing it for no reason.

Timing is everything though. If the horse kicked you a half an hour ago, it's not going to have a clue while you're kicking back now ;)
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post #9 of 20 Old 04-05-2012, 03:10 AM
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Yes

There are several young, mouthy horses where I board (one of which is mine) and first attempt to nibble/chew on people gets their head shoved away, further attempts gets them a jab. I would never, ever haul off and smack a horse in the head but a jab that would not actually hurt them, gets the point across and when the horse retreats their head, praise and petting follows.
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post #10 of 20 Old 04-05-2012, 07:07 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks you guys for all the help! I'm pretty sure the only reason she does it is because she is being disrespectful but I am working with that. I am also going to try just having that halter on her and then putting the bridle on over that, pet, then take it off and repeat a few times.

I will tell you how it goes and if she improves! Thanks again!
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