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    01-11-2009, 04:21 PM
  #1
Yearling
Your opinions on training?

Okay so here is what I have in mind. I want experience training horses, it seems to be an invaluable resource to have! I'm not looking to train the next big star, just a safe trail horse.

I'm wanting to go about it one of two ways.

I'm wanting to purchase a dead broke/bomb proof horse. I'm going to have an instructor show me how to go about training a horse from the bottom up, and then test out what I learn with my horse. This way, I'm using it in a safe environment, gaining confidence, and learning what does or doesn't work well. I realize that every horse is different when it comes to training but this way seems to be a good way to get my feet wet with out the repercussions of screwing up a green broke horse.

My other option was to get a horse that is not 100% dead broke or bomb proof (would still be broken, just not parade ready) and have an instructor teach me how to make him so.

Either way, I wont do it unless I have a willing instructor to show me how its done. Its nothing I'm going to do right away. I'm starting college in May to get an assistant barn management certification. Its only a 1 year program, I probably don't have to get it to manage a barn but I'm using it as a resource for information and experience (they do internships to different barns).
I also have to either have a free place to board the horse or some place extremely cheep. Boarding around the Orlando area is a good $600-$700 a month full and $200-$300 for just simple pasture board.

I'm also going to be doing this with a draft horse of some sort.

So, what do you think of the idea? Does it sound like a safe way to get started?
     
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    01-11-2009, 04:29 PM
  #2
Weanling
You mean that you want to take an already started horse and make him trail/parada safe, right?
If that's the case, than either option would be fine, I think.
I would look at getting a horse that has been started and is well adjusted. Not too young, but not too old either - something that would enjoy learning different things.
     
    01-11-2009, 04:42 PM
  #3
Yearling
Okay, what would be a good age to look at then? Around 5-7?

And yes, that is what I mean hehe sorry.
     
    01-11-2009, 07:46 PM
  #4
Weanling
Maybe about 5-11 Outlaw still has some work to do I got him in augast. He goes to fast at the trot he needs to learn to slow down. He also need to stand when I mont and tighten the girth he just backs up and walks in turns.
     
    01-11-2009, 08:15 PM
  #5
LMW
Foal
What about first working with a trainer for a while helping him/her train their younger horses. That way you get a variety of temperments with the horses. Then you could take your next step (when you feel confident enough) and buy a horse and work with it.
     
    01-12-2009, 01:39 AM
  #6
Foal
If you have experience with horses and you want to learn how to train one then I would say the only way to do that is to get an untrained one. Getting a fully trained, bombproof horse purely so you can learn how to train isn't great. Firstly, you got to train over its current training, secondly, if he knows what you are teaching when you teach you won't know if its you causing his reaction, or what he already knows. Finally, what will you do at the end, you'll have a lovely quiet horse, but will probably want to try out training a younger one.

I would get a five or six year old. Something quiet, maybe a quarter horse, there seem to be a lot of them over there. A horse that knows the basics but there is still more to teach.

If you have no experience with horses, don't go in for training, go in to teach yourself how to be around horses.

:) training is fun though, its worth doing.
     
    01-12-2009, 02:25 AM
  #7
Weanling
I would have to second the concept of attaching to a trainer, and watching and helping through the various phases of training, and the variety of horses to work with. I agree as well that a "bombproof" horse will negate experience in training an untrained horse. Though they can still be trained, they "tend" to be more open minded and willing, and in other cases previous training and training styles may be resisted. Its a confusing conflict, LOL! But a new mind will give you a raw response that can help you guage your efforts.

I can definitely say though, that if you work with a trainer with a variety of horses you will really gain a valuable experience in dealing with a variety of problems and issues that you wouldnt get with just one. I do not know what area you are from, so the availability of trainers will vary.
     
    01-12-2009, 03:56 AM
  #8
Foal
I over 20 yrs of watching and handling with trainers, here's what I've learned.
They differ in their approach much like two chefs won't make the same food the same way.
I have seen abusive (they didn't see it that way) all the way to the undisciplined.
Work with many, study on, read , talk to, watch video, etc..The point I make is, take the best you've seen work from many, and adapt your own way..
I have done a few "re-socialization" Horses, and the one thing that stands out the most for positive results?? Constancy, dominance (never abuse..I nearly never strike a horse..maybe twice ever) and PATIENCE.
Just keep in mind they have child-like traits...If it can be attempted, and the attempt is testing you and your patience, assert your wishes, and repeat..remember patience? Oh you will!!
These are generalizations, but they seem to hold true overall....

Best to ya! Lw
     
    01-13-2009, 02:30 PM
  #9
Foal
1st: draft horses are slower learners
2nd: I don't think a riding instructor can teach you how to train a horse in all honesty because their job is to teach how to ride, not how to train.
3rd: there are many steps to training.

If you would like me to walk you through training a horse I would be happy to help you, but send me an email, I don't get on the forum too often and I check my email much more consistantly.

Email: jdun722@aol.com

Training a horse is a big step from riding a horse, and chances are good it will change the way you think of horses to in my opinion a much better way then most people do.
     
    01-14-2009, 10:24 PM
  #10
Weanling
I'd suggest getting a "retired" carriage horse. People sell carriage horses for a variety of reasons, some aren't strong enough to pull the carriages, some go lame if they're worked on the streets, some just aren't cut out for being downtown.

Either way, if you get a former carriage horse, you'll (most likely) get a calm, easygoing horse that you can do just about anything with, but chances are it won't be broke to ride. You'll probably be able to hop on it's back and ride it around, but it won't know how to respond to leg cues.

I think that would be a great prospect for you - it would be calm and parade ready, but you could also train a horse to be ridden. Not to mention, draft horses are being practically given away right now, so you could get a really good deal on one.
     

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