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        04-01-2011, 10:54 AM
      #21
    Trained
    I didn't really want to start a bull fighting debate, Im just curious if he is doing dressage. I think he is.

    I have seen videos of horses moving like him through obstacles in some sort of competition. Don't know what it's called though so I just did the video with the bull..
         
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        04-01-2011, 03:48 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    I agree with what was stated previously, that this is more natural horsemanship. Dressage manuevers are very specific to that particular competition, and most of these are...well, tricks. Very, very advanced ones, yes, but that's what they are. I don't ride dressage, so if I'm wrong, please correct me, but I do know that they are very specific about what you can and cannot do, and even from the beginning I THINK it stopped being dressage when she took off the bridle. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. Great video though! You should see the one of stacy westfall reining freestyle...it's very similar and neat to watch!
         
        04-04-2011, 06:44 PM
      #23
    Foal
    This was so great! I hope in the future I can train a horse to do that!
         
        04-04-2011, 07:17 PM
      #24
    Started
    I agree this isn't dressage - it's way more interesting! And to think I ignored this video for days because the title said "dressage" lol

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    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    I have seen videos of horses moving like him through obstacles in some sort of competition. Don't know what it's called though so I just did the video with the bull..
    I've seen that too, and I wish I knew the name of it. And I would sell my soul for that horse.~
         
        04-04-2011, 08:07 PM
      #25
    Trained
    I can't even see the video because I don't "facebook"... man, I hate that, but I hate facebook more. I guess there are some things I must give up for privacy.
         
        04-04-2011, 10:52 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    The facebook video does incorporate dressage. There is collection and communication. Just because tricks are added doesn't mean it isn't dressage. It wouldn't fall into the category of the modern competitive dressage. That dressage has rules and guidelines that makes it that way. What about classical dressage? They do spanish walk and things like levades that you could call tricks but that is most definitely dressage. I don't think you should categorize dressage and say something is dressage or not dressage. Yes, it's not the "competitive", but it is dressage. She had some tricks that wouldn't be considered dressage but I would call her riding dressage.

    As for the rejoneador(bullfighter), I wouldn't say that is not dressage because it doesn't have the same relaxation of dressage. It follows similar principals, the main ones being communication and collection, but it is also very different. I think the riders and horses are fantastic but I don't agree with the way the bulls are treated and killed.
         
        04-05-2011, 07:37 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    ^^That's a good way to look at it; I didn't know there was more than one style to dressage.
         
        04-05-2011, 08:23 PM
      #28
    Showing
    Sp, I respectfully disagree - the horse is heavily on the forehand; the very basis of dressage is getting the horse off the forehand. The "piaffe" is not true, but a neat non-dressage trick.
    Tricks, without embodying the very basics of dressage.
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        04-05-2011, 08:44 PM
      #29
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    Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
    Sp, I respectfully disagree - the horse is heavily on the forehand; the very basis of dressage is getting the horse off the forehand. The "piaffe" is not true, but a neat non-dressage trick.
    Tricks, without embodying the very basics of dressage.
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    Absolutely agree.

    This has nothing to do with competitive or non competitive dressage.

    The worst part is the back and forth movement done early in the video as this throwing the horse around like this is not only NOT dressage it goes against the very essence of dressage.
         
        04-05-2011, 08:52 PM
      #30
    Super Moderator
    I agree, nice tricks, nothing more.

    And for Merlin, his days are numbered, as nice as he is. There are too many videos of this same trainer having horses gored and disemboweled out from under him. Merlin will be too, when he makes his move a fraction of a second too late.

    Dressage can be seen in many disciplines. However, a common theme must be engagement of the haunch, lightness of the forehand and the ability and desire for self carriage.
         

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