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post #41 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 05:31 PM
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Don't apologize draftrider, this thread has definitely taught me (and I'm sure quite a few others) something new!

I agree that the black horse seemed kind of creepy with the way he was moving.. but someone else mentioned that they thought the video was sped up which could definitely make it seem worse than it actually is.
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post #42 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 06:53 PM
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Yeah! It was a kool video!

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #43 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 10:47 PM
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That's actually really neat, seeing the white horse get down low like that, very cool to watch. I can't even begin to imagine how that's taught xD 'ok horsey now bend down a little and dance a bit' none of my guys would be up for it I can tell you that!
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post #44 of 51 Old 08-22-2010, 12:43 AM
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The attan has been around since the dawn of man/horse...mostly in the middle east. These are ultimately well trained horses who are greatly prized. I am sure that, as in all of our riding disciplines, you can find bad examples. The first two horses are fairly green and I believe one has hobbles. I see saddleseat riders use hobbles while riding, so how is this worse?

The attan really tries to teach horses to go as low as they can go. How about that white horse for haunch engagement?? I saw a video of one that was so low that only the tips of its front hooves touched the ground. They only expect it to hold that movement for brief periods, so I don't find it abusive.

Remember, people post videos on youtube that shows any horse at any stage of training. The first video may never have meant to show a horse at the height of training.
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post #45 of 51 Old 08-22-2010, 03:04 AM
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A little bit more info from someone:

"Your mentioning of the Horse dance has given me a flash back :) I'm pretty sure that your daughter must have loved it. I love it too, and you simply can’t imagine the feeling/sensation of looking at this dance in person.

Horse Dance, which by the way is not only performed on the weddings but also during many local & folk exhibitions, is mainly a feature/part of Punjabi Culture. Especially in rural areas of Punjab horse dance is considered as essential part of celebrations (Punjab is one of the four provinces of Pakistan) (Same is being replaced by Camel Dance in Sindi & Balochi culture).

The horses trained for this purpose are not thoroughbreds, usually a local breeds are trained which are, when compared with thoroughbreds, are smaller in size. Mostly White or Black horses are preferred to be trained for dance. (Just because of being more beautiful looking). Most people prefer to train mares rather than horses. (Am not really sure why is that, will have to ask my father or uncles :)).

Dance is usually performed on the beat of a Drum (called “Dholl” in indo Pak), use of clarinet and “Ghungroos” (large number of small bells tied together) is also very common. Ghungroos, mostly in Red Color are also tied to the front legs of the horse, (which by the way produce a very beautiful rhythmic sound and it seems that even the animal is enjoying his ability to create this sound)

The horse is handled by his handler while dancing and is not ridden by anyone at that time. (People anyways avoid riding the horses trained to dance.)

As far as training of the horses is concerned; well there are no steal plates in their legs :). Nothing unnatural is introduced in their body. Use of harsh methods? Well Harsh Training methods is a relative term, and it really depends what you consider as harsh and what is acceptable for you.

My personal opinion in this regard is that no harsh training techniques are used to train the dancing horses. During initial stages horse whips are used to give commands, which of course cause pain, but don’t make a "crack” and is as necessary as in case of training of other such animals.

Later on, during the dance whips (made of ropes) are used to make a loud sharp sound, to provide direction and command to animals."

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Very interesting! :) And compared to other sports? What about soreing? That's horrible!

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Dont' blame is on yourself Draftrider. I'm sure you posted it out of ciriosity(sp lol)?

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post #48 of 51 Old 08-23-2010, 09:01 AM
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^^^^^^^
Hey...it had to be done lol!
Um no. But you can think that if it makes you feel better.


Draftrider, I agree with the others. Nothing to be sorry for. We all learned something. Very interesting stuff, really.
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looks like some classic dressage movements, but with no rider. I see nothing tying the legs together but rather two bands.. like bracelets [wondering if they're for decorative purposes?] The first horse looks very familiar with the movements, no hesitations at all. The other horse looks confused at some points but not frightened or panicked.

I can't imagine how much training it would take to achieve this, it looks liek the movements are really complicated at times!
They are mostly likely a series of bells.

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/5...350616c784.jpg
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post #50 of 51 Old 08-25-2010, 07:38 AM
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That makes sense Lunar. Thanks for posting that.
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