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post #11 of 43 Old 10-11-2010, 10:28 AM
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Randomhorsey, i don't understand what your saying. I wouldn't get off my horse or "beat up him" for rearing. I'd send him forward and teach him that's not okay.

Citrus, i agree..

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post #12 of 43 Old 10-11-2010, 10:30 AM
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she probably is showing off
1.camea at the ight time ones helping her
3.well as u said loks as if shes cuing her pony to rear!

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post #13 of 43 Old 10-11-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by countmystrides View Post
Randomhorsey, i don't understand what your saying. I wouldn't get off my horse or "beat up him" for rearing. I'd send him forward and teach him that's not okay.

Citrus, i agree..
she is sending him forward but while smacking and kicking him ant the answer mabe have someone lead him past the spot hes rearing at.
i agre with you tho i wouldent beat my horse up but i would get off.

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even tho it may teach him "hay this chick is off cause i reared"but if you dont feel safe on a horse get off dont stay on so he keeps rearing!

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post #15 of 43 Old 10-11-2010, 11:14 AM
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It looks to me like she is blocking him from moving forward by pulling back on him at the same time she is motioning him forward. It kind of looks like she wants him to do this for the camera.

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I suppose she could definitely be doing this on purpose, it's probably the best explanation that can be found but still. It just looks a bit off to me.

ETA: Thinking about it though I still find it odd like others have mentioned how she's kicking him to go forward but pulling back. Most of the horses I've seen taught to rear are on a loose rein and pretty light cues.

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I would be she doesn't know what she's doing. She's asking him to go forward, and tightening her hands at the same time. She needs to give him head head, maybe bend him a little, and try and get that forward motion. We know NOTHING about the pony/rider background though, so it could be anything. He could be sick of that arena or have something pinching for all we know.

I don't see anything wrong with staying on, she has a pretty good seat! I would just change the way she is working with him IF other problems such as pain aren't at work. I don't feel "disgusted" by this video, it's not like she's abusing him.

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post #18 of 43 Old 10-11-2010, 09:21 PM
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This. I agree completely with Eliz. I would change aspects of what she's doing, she's definitely blocking his front door every time she asks him to step out which is only encouraging the rear. With a pony this hellbent on rearing, I'd be pulling that nose around and doing everything in my power to stop the rear and get those feet moving in ANY direction except up.

However, nothing about it disgusts me. We've all been young, we've all made training errors, and she's not hauling on his mouth, she simply isn't being as open as she needs to be to encourage forward movement.

RandomHorsey - from your very juvenile comments about disliking someone over a color, I can only assume your horses are holy terrors if you jump off every single time they misbehave. This pony is blatantly and obviously not rearing at SOMETHING and simply rearing because he thinks it's his only avenue. Getting off will prove nothing, as he is going to go right back to rearing when the next person gets on. Although I am not fond of how this girl is blocking her pony's front door, she is in NO way abusing or beating him - I think I can count three times he even gets popped with the crop. Maybe you should reserve judgment until you learn a bit more about training yourself.

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Looks dangerous to me.

I watched this twice. She is most definitely asking him forward and hauling him back at the same time. That pony isn't trying to avoid work. He might have started out that way, but by this point he is out of his mind and sees no escape but UP. It would serve no purpose except to further ingrain this automatic reaction and to endanger the rider's life to continue with these tactics. Do you want to win the battle or the war? If what she is doing is not successful afte many, many tries, she needs to get more creative and try something else. The pony is totally stuck mentally and sees no way to deal with it but to go up. This is one nasty and dangerous tug of war.
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj View Post
Erm, that's a toughie to judge. She doesn't have tight draw reins - he's got a teeny little neck, and he's still fully capable of sticking his nose straight up when he's rearing. She's got some pretty decent skills to stick on him like that, and keep him balanced when he's freaking out and almost flipping wit her being so big on him.

I would wager to say he'd be pulling the exact same thing without them. The tone of the video tells me this pony has been a chronic rearer for some time now, and you don't know how long she's been riding him in draw reins. It COULD be the result, but it could just be him having another episode.

I would personally have done a few things differently, but I don't think it's anyone's place to tell this girl she did it WRONG. We all handle situations to the best of our ability.

She is pulling and kicking at the same time. Sure, the pony can stick his nose up while he's rearing.... she throws her hands forward and gives him a release.
I'm not going to judge without knowing all the details.. but all I see in this video is a girl provoking a pony to rear. No matter how the pony got to this point, slapping draw reins on him is only exacerbating the problem.
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