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post #11 of 14 Old 01-16-2009, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jubilee View Post
I'm still new to how headsets and body carriage should be for Dressage. Could you help me understand better what exactly he is doing wrong with his head set. I'm having a hard time seeing it but I know that's simply because I have untrained eyes, I'm trying to learn.

He is GORGEOUS though. What breed is he?


He is doing nothing wrong. He is a young stallion and showing off. Notice that he is perfectly capable of lowering his head as he did it several times.

There is no hollowing of the back but there is the tension exibited by a stallion that you will often see especially by a young stallion in an arena where he can smell other stallions. To mistake this verve for incorrect or too high headset is common and once you have seen these young stallions going for their 100 day testing you will see an entirely different picture.

I have seen several stallion shows and you have to go to one to understand the excitement it generates for man and beast.
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Regardless of how "excited" the horse, he should be able to relax his back and work up and under himself long and low. That rider was not riding him long and low, he was riding him as an "upper level" horse, with a high neck and head set.
Doesn't matter how excited they are.
You said yourself that he has tension... yes.. that's tension from being ridden so high through the head and neck. Ridden with a looser lower headset, he would be able to stretch through his back. Don't care if it's a stallion, gelding or mare.
I did not comment about the free movement videos, but rather just about the riding video, and I stand by my statement. The headset for that age of horse is incorrect to me, being a more "classical" rider, if you will.

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post #13 of 14 Old 01-16-2009, 10:36 PM
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Someone told me what you said JDI and my previous post was based on the loose stallion part of the video. I have looked at the whole video now and see no tensness in the riding part at all. In Europe what that stallion is doing as far as the riding part is normal. They are just better at it than us N.A. riders and I personally am not going to get all jealous about them being better able to get a horse ready for state stud selection.

If a stallion is not up to a certain level then it does not get selected for the state stud. It is these stallions that will produce the next generation of dressage horses that will be imported to North America for some amateur to eventually get it ready to show even though they may not really know what they may be doing. One day we may be able to compete on their level but we need to do a lot of changing in many areas here (breeding,riding and over all expertise).
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post #14 of 14 Old 01-16-2009, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. I know there are lots of different opinions on how things are done in Dressage, and I'm not really trying to start an argument. I just want to learn as much as I can from all sides so that I can participate as an educated observer when I watch stuff like this. Thank you for explaining. I will have to check out that book, that is the second time I've seen it recommended.

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