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post #21 of 72 Old 07-03-2010, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
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Yes. With Otis, I like to make a triangle with his shoulder, hip, and then me facing his barrel. When I line up with his shoulder, he speeds up, and slows down when I line up with his hip. We also go in circles or straight lines around the working area. I can actually make him extend the trot by running beside him down the arena wall. Some people even do through things like simple dressage tests with their horses in spacious arenas. It's really quite awesome, this body language thing.
that's kinda what I was thinking, too! But everyone is entitled to their own opinion... If they want their horse running circle around them on auto-pilot. That's fine with me.
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post #22 of 72 Old 07-03-2010, 05:36 PM
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sooo, if i'm reading this right: You want him to do gridwork? Why didnt you just say so?
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No, you're not reading this right. Whatsoever. Do you see a grid?

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No, you're not reading this right. Whatsoever. Do you see a grid?
You say he's not balanced. People say Gridwork is best for helping a horse find his balance while jumping... Are you saying that gridwork is not what he needs to find balance? That all he needs is a jump with a chute?
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He's NOT balanced. He needs to find balance through flatwork BEFORE he starts jumping. At all.

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He's NOT balanced. He needs to find balance through flatwork BEFORE he starts jumping. At all.
He has has a year and a half of flatwork. If he's not balanced yet then he is hopeless.(though considering some of the amazing footwork he does on his free time. I think he knows how to handle himself)
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Then maybe he needs to have flat work done with somebody who knows what they're doing?

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Then maybe he needs to have flat work done with somebody who knows what they're doing?
Just as soon as you find someone close let me know :)
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This isn't directly related, but I disagree with this. It is more engaging for the horse to be moved about when lunging. That way they have to follow you, focus on you in a slightly different place, and have an opportunity to go in straight lines. The key here is that you are the one deciding where to go, the horse shouldn't be dragging you around.
I do 2 types of lounging. 1) Exersize/training lounging 2) Lounging for respect (preride check)
For 1, I put the horse on a real lounge line, and like to stay in the same spot facing the horses barrel and keeping the pressure pointed behind their hindquarters. By relaitvely same spot, I mean a 3 foot radius from the center of the circle.
For 2, I just leave the horse on a lead rope and do more of what you are saying, I do much more moving with the circle when I do this. I lounge them in the same stance as lounge 1, but we only walk and trot, as to make sure the horse is calm, responsive, and focusing on me.

As she was doing training lounging, I said what I do for that type of lounging. I do agree with you about moving, I believe it is good to test and help a horse hone in on what he is doing and focus, but I don't like doing it on the long lounge line.

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Except it's not her responsibility. You're not doing him any good if you can't train him. If he's yours, then it's up to you as his owner to do what's best for him.
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The problem is not necessarily that he's not balanced in general. The problem is that he's SO concerned about looking at you and hauling as hard as he can on that line, he's not even seeing the jump until a couple strides out and has NO ability to prepare himself.

He needs to be free jumped, off a lunge, period until he figures out what he's doing. If you can't do that, stop jumping him.

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