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        01-12-2013, 10:12 PM
      #11
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
    Sometimes getting the horse and in a circle to listen only applies to nice horses.....

    And sometimes you don't need to cause the buck.....the horse decides he wants to buck and not you......

    That horse was being a turd......if he was terrified he'd be running and bucking and really throwing himself around.....he was plain being naughty....
    Indeed that is very true, but from what I can see, this man is causing the buck. Several times the horse had stopped and was walking forward and that would immediately be responded to by the crop/whip.
         
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        01-12-2013, 10:16 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    Next step in training... desensitize horse to the crop.
         
        01-12-2013, 10:18 PM
      #13
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    Originally Posted by JumpingJiminy    
    Indeed that is very true, but from what I can see, this man is causing the buck. Several times the horse had stopped and was walking forward and that would immediately be responded to by the crop/whip.
    Yeah but from what you can see and what he can feel can be two totally different things......that horse could've been humping up to buck under him and he was spanking to let it know that it's not making a good choice.....we can't feel that from just watching.....

    Also it's not that uncommon for someone to just have to ride a bucker out like that and make it buck and spank it so it learns that buckings a no-no.....

    For all we know that horse could've been bucking that rider off all week......and this day he got fed up with it.......

    Said my piece........
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        01-12-2013, 10:26 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Well A you can't really judge from a YouTube video...or any video for that matter. He could have been asking he horse to move and it didn't listen, it could have been humping its back or not responding at all

    And you can't really judge a persons techniques if its on YouTube...and you aren't there watching/and or riding said horse

    Jmo
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        01-12-2013, 11:07 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Looked to me like the dude was doing it on purpose. Getting him to buck,to show off or whatever.
         
        01-12-2013, 11:32 PM
      #16
    Started
    I agree that it looked like it was done purposely. It would sort of explain why the person filming was laughing. I don't' know, if my friend was riding a horse that wouldn't stop bucking and she kept smacking him to regain order, I wouldn't be laughing the whole time like it was some joke. :/
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        01-12-2013, 11:49 PM
      #17
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Hidalgo13    
    I agree that it looked like it was done purposely. It would sort of explain why the person filming was laughing. I don't' know, if my friend was riding a horse that wouldn't stop bucking and she kept smacking him to regain order, I wouldn't be laughing the whole time like it was some joke. :/
    Totally agree with this.
         
        01-13-2013, 12:53 AM
      #18
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    Looks to me the horses would of stopped bucking if he quit smacking it with the whip. Needs some whip desensitization that's for sure. I used to barrel race on a OTTB and she would buck if you smacked her on the hip even in a gallop. Some horses just don't like being hit back there and they tell you
         
        01-13-2013, 01:00 AM
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    All I see is a failure. I don't know what issues the horse had or the human did, but somewhere along the lines, humans failed to use our so called smarts and train this horse properly. Ill fitting tack, bad attitude horse, angry human, sulled-up horse or 'cowboy' doesn't matter. Just a sad video to me- I don't see that any good came of anything the rider did and the horse has now had at least one chance to learn that bucking is a valid way to get rid of a human that is doing something he doesn't like.
         
        02-03-2013, 04:20 PM
      #20
    Foal
    When a horse bucks it is because you have lost forward motion. Smaking a horse becasue he bucks is not going to solove the bucking problem. You need to have your timing and feel so that when you feel the horse making the change from moving forward to wanting to stop, drop its head an buck you are prepared and can send them forward before they start bucking. You send them forward through you seat and leg. Smaking them can only scare them more. If you have done your prep work correctly prior to saddling and getting on, your horse is use to you being above them and are much more accepting of you when you get on. I start colts for a living and very seldom do they ever buck the frist ride. If they do I have not done my homework correctly. I have worked with Buck Brannaman for 21 years and I follow his methods because they are intended to keep the human safe and the methods are soothing to the horses and they understand what you are asking from them
         

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