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post #21 of 63 Old 02-03-2013, 04:29 PM
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I had to go to youtube to read the video description. This is what the person posted in the description. "**TO CLARIFY!**
I have had nothing to do with Imperial Horses Ltd, nor is it me riding/videoing or any other connection to this 'company' - I simply have reuploaded the video for proof for the authorities" There were also links to a facebook page, a website, and another youtube video that doesn't work. I'm assuming they all belong to this group called "Imperial Horses."

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post #22 of 63 Old 02-03-2013, 05:09 PM
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It is very obvious that the stupid girl riding the horse is smacking it to make it buck.

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post #23 of 63 Old 02-03-2013, 09:29 PM
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Ugh, this is so not the way to go about it.. whatever IT is, its just wrong and dangerous - for both the horse and the rider... although I'd like to see the rider knocked down a peg or two. No good came from this.
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post #24 of 63 Old 02-04-2013, 01:05 PM
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looks like the horse was bucking because of the smacking.
I agree.

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To me it is pretty clear they are smacking the horse to get it to buck.
I agree.

It's to bad the rider didn't get seriously hurt.

People like that should be shot. I feel absolutely horrible for that poor horse. It's devastating there are people like that "training" horses. Disgusting. I hope karma catches up to her.
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post #25 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 07:54 PM
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Its all just a big joke to the person video taping and the person riding. The horse doesn't need desensitized to a whip. The horse needs to respond to a whip, and they are using it's response as a joke.

The whip is to reinforce the leg. ONLY. It should not be used to "start" a horse or to change gaits. That's what your leg is for. I did not see her use her leg and ask that horse for a higher speed. I just saw the whip.

You do not lace a horse repeatedly. I've laced a horse once or twice while riding due to the refusal to move. They get it after that sting and I don't have to do it again. This is AFTER a well broke horse has been asked to move with leg over and over to no avail and AFTER the horse had been tapped with the whip (to reinforce leg) and downright refuses. Then they got the whallop. One time, and they didn't need it again.

At one point in time, the horse was cantering well for three strides and the girl laces him for a reaction, to which he gives it. Lacing a horse is not the proper way to desensitize it to the whip, if that's what she was trying.

This is a classic example of "whip to buck". That horse will need a trainer now.

She wasn't trying anything though, except to ride around and whip at a horse for bucks and giggles.
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post #26 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 08:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure they werent trying to desensitise it to the whip - more likely its a horse that has a bad bucking habit and they are trying to get it bored with bucking by forcing it to buck until it eventually sees it as not a cool thing to do - Its a form of reverse psychology - I have seen it work but not to be recommended unless you can stick on because if you don't the horse sees it as a win for him and you're back to square one.
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post #27 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 08:35 PM
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This is not how you break a horse. He wasn't just smacking it when it bucked, he also whacked it several times after it had stopped and was standing.
Yes that was weird. Poor horse seemed to get hit most when it wasn't bucking. I feel sorry for the next person that inherits the problems caused by those poeple
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post #28 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 08:40 PM
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Yeah but from what you can see and what he can feel can be two totally different things......that horse could've been humping up to buck under him and he was spanking to let it know that it's not making a good choice.....we can't feel that from just watching.....

Also it's not that uncommon for someone to just have to ride a bucker out like that and make it buck and spank it so it learns that buckings a no-no.....

For all we know that horse could've been bucking that rider off all week......and this day he got fed up with it.......

Said my piece........
He spanked it most when it was not bucking. It took three nice strides and he started whipping it and then it bucked. You don't hit a horse on the rear with out expecting a reaction.
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post #29 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 08:42 PM
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That's just an odd video. It's really hard to see what the smack was for.
It looked like the horse was crow hopping and wanted to buck, and then was smacked. At one or two points, I thought the smack was for no reason, but they were also on the far side of the ring.

A smack isn't my favorite retort to a buck, I like a nice, tight circle, and then MOVE. No buck, then we get to walk, like a good horse. Lol

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post #30 of 63 Old 02-12-2013, 08:54 PM
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I'm pretty sure they werent trying to desensitise it to the whip - more likely its a horse that has a bad bucking habit and they are trying to get it bored with bucking by forcing it to buck until it eventually sees it as not a cool thing to do - Its a form of reverse psychology - I have seen it work but not to be recommended unless you can stick on because if you don't the horse sees it as a win for him and you're back to square one.
Exactly my point too! What the rider is 'feeling' and what people can 'see' are two entirely different things. Yes, the person videoing it might have been chuckling, but if you've been to enough and seen enough horses being ridden out like this nothing seems 'horrible' or 'terrible' anymore, it's the nature of being around horses long enough that you can identify some humor in it. This was child's play compared to some of the extreme cowboying I've witnessed.
For all we know that horse was a flipper and the rider would rather have had it go forward and buck then stand still and come over on him and split his skull open.....
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