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        02-18-2013, 02:01 PM
      #51
    Yearling
    I'm very happy that this issue was resolved. There was no training in that video at all and hopefully the horse was set back on course and doesn't have any long term lingering issues after they rescued him.

    That was just plain abuse. Some very nasty stuff happened in that video. What kind of idiot does that and videos the evidence?!
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        02-18-2013, 03:13 PM
      #52
    Foal
    That video is appalling! There was NO reason to be using the crop at any point in that video! I saw leg use ONCE and I'm thinking it was probably an accident judging on the rider's other behavior! That poor horse is going to need a good trainer and a lot of TLC.
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        02-18-2013, 08:38 PM
      #53
    Foal
    I haven't checked back on this post in quite a while but thank you so much Jess and whoever else may have helped with that information. It's good to know that I wasn't just being ridiculous as a few thought I was.
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        02-19-2013, 03:44 AM
      #54
    Foal
    Glad to hear the horse was rescued from this abuse and yes that was abuse. Just another so call "trainer" whose in it for the money and look for quick ways to "train" horses by using pain and other torture methods. These people make me sick, I can't stand horse abusers and the laws in this country are to loose and weak. Slaps on the wrists and piddly fines is all these abusers get most of the time. Is it just me or does the amount these abusive trainers seem to be increasing lately? Just seems like every time I turn around there's another in the media.
    This is why us horse lovers need to stick together and help horses to be safe from this type of abuse. Keep up on trying to add new laws and straighten existing ones on the books. Informing people of these abusers and expose these abusers to other horse owners if the law does nothing. The internet is a powerful tool and a great alli to use to help keep our Equine friends safe from these sick people. This is what scares me of handing my horse over to any trainer without fully checking into that person. Heck I don't let anyone even touch my truck to change the oil. I just love my girls too much and don't want any harm come to them. To me there equal to us humans in regards to a right to life. Call me crazy if ya like but I'm just horse crazy that's all.
         
        02-19-2013, 08:16 AM
      #55
    Weanling
    I'm no expert and watched the video multiple times and especially at about 38 seconds, the horse seemed to be moving forward quite steadily, and he still continied to whip it! Lets see how fast they move if we whip their ar*es Poor horse xx
         
        02-19-2013, 08:41 AM
      #56
    Weanling
    This is the same horse in a different video posted by his owners:


    Showing there was no problems (which still doesn't excuse the treatment even if he did have issues) xx
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        02-19-2013, 09:47 AM
      #57
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    If a 4 year old was jumping this nicely you have to wonder why the owner couldnt sell it to a decent home and it ended up on a yard that seems to have a long standing and well know bad reputation to be 'sorted out' don't you?
    Did they maybe push it too hard and turn it sour and unwilling?
    The UK market might be bad but good reliable horses are still selling
         
        02-19-2013, 01:49 PM
      #58
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    If a 4 year old was jumping this nicely you have to wonder why the owner couldnt sell it to a decent home and it ended up on a yard that seems to have a long standing and well know bad reputation to be 'sorted out' don't you?
    Did they maybe push it too hard and turn it sour and unwilling?
    The UK market might be bad but good reliable horses are still selling

    This is what the owner had to say about why the horse was sent to these people:

    'Just to put a few things straight,The decision to sell him was a purely unselfish one in that I wished to give the horse an opportunity to reach his potential as I did not feel at this time I could finance what was involved as I have other horses as well.What he was sold for did not cover 10% of my financial input into him but sometimes you have to take the knock and think whats best for the horse in these bad times in the horse market.The lady who sold him on my behalf did so in good faith having been recommended these people by the original breeder.We have all been very cautious with vetting potential buyers for the horse and there was nothing outwardly that would lead you to believe this situation would arise they had a website and seemed to be selling some reasonable horses ,there is only so much you can do .I feel also that the people who have been looking after him up until now have not been represented fairly in that He was being sold for the reason stated and not because I had any problem with the way he was looked after in fact he was always kept to a high standard and I would never say any different.'
         
        02-19-2013, 02:46 PM
      #59
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JessXxX    
    This is what the owner had to say about why the horse was sent to these people:

    'Just to put a few things straight,The decision to sell him was a purely unselfish one in that I wished to give the horse an opportunity to reach his potential as I did not feel at this time I could finance what was involved as I have other horses as well.What he was sold for did not cover 10% of my financial input into him but sometimes you have to take the knock and think whats best for the horse in these bad times in the horse market.The lady who sold him on my behalf did so in good faith having been recommended these people by the original breeder.We have all been very cautious with vetting potential buyers for the horse and there was nothing outwardly that would lead you to believe this situation would arise they had a website and seemed to be selling some reasonable horses ,there is only so much you can do .I feel also that the people who have been looking after him up until now have not been represented fairly in that He was being sold for the reason stated and not because I had any problem with the way he was looked after in fact he was always kept to a high standard and I would never say any different.'
    This case has actually been ongoing on a UK forum since November and its unlikely that any prosecutions will be made - horses get treated like this all the time when they get sold onto dealers yards for a quick fix to be sold on again - most dealers arent interested in taking time to get from A to B. I don't think the horse had been ridden for some time when he landed with these people.
    This is their website I believe and it does look professional and they do sell a lot of horses but like all dealers they have their methods which the general public don't usually get to see.
    LLF SPORT HORSES - *Home
    They have taken down the website attached to the horse in this video
         
        02-19-2013, 03:29 PM
      #60
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    This case has actually been ongoing on a UK forum since November
    Yup, I live in the UK that's how I know so much about it, it was a big thing round here aha :)
         

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