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    01-01-2010, 08:19 PM
  #41
Green Broke
Most EXCELLENT video of the Dressage rider dealing with the rearer. I have no issue with fast and hard methods of dealing with dangerous behavior - the horse was blatantly disrespecting her, she was doing what she could to prevent it and she went up anyway. She dealt with it in an excellent manner, lightning fast reflexes and probably made the horse think twice.

Strapping a horses nose to his chest with a German martingale and then attempting to do vicious "sliding" stops three strides after he's jumped nicely is just ASKING for trouble. When the problems are a direct result of the rider, it's time to stop acting like an obnoxious twit and reflect on why they're happening.

And again - the rider is NOT the OP. Read the info on the video, it's her friend.
     
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    01-01-2010, 08:38 PM
  #42
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by VanillaBean    
the OP is the one riding the rearer.
If you go onto the youtube channel the username is the same as it is on here.

I did and discovered something interesting. Someone there had cut and pasted my original post here and used it as their own opinion as a comment there.

I guess I ought to feel flattered......


You know what saddens me the most? The OP says that this girl is such a great rider.....obviously she is THE girl that the younger riders look up to and admire. This poor riding example is what they are learning to admire, too.
     
    01-01-2010, 10:43 PM
  #43
Started
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Originally Posted by Honeysuga    
Equestriun,
I don't see how anyone overreacted to the video, it is a clear case of abuse and cause for some outrage among educated and caring horse owners. If you saw someone beating their child in public because they ignored it and it got too far away from her and into trouble, would you not be a little outraged yourself, having seen that is was clearly their fault the incident happened in the first place?

Now I am not comparing horses to children, but my point is that when the person is clearly at fault for the undesirable behavior but takes it out on the subject in an abusive manner, though the subject is only the victim in the first place, it is IMO cause for a little outrage...
To tell you the truth, if I saw a kid acting up then I would hope the mother would smack him/her, and I know most of you will probably take this the wrong way, like everything else. My whole family, and I were raised that if you talked back or acted out then you would get reprimanded, if that meant a butt spanking, then so be it. I turned out great and so didn't my family and many other people I know. That's the problem with most (not all) kids these days, their parents didn't discipline them enough. And that goes the same for horses. People tend to forget that these are still wild animals; they aren't your children. They can kill you if you don't fix a a problem. I don't know about you, but I'd rather see the horse get reprimanded and get over it, then the rider falling off and dying. I lost my grandmother to a horse that bucked her off, and I would pick her life over a horses any day.

I'm not saying she handled it the best way, but everyone calling the rider out over the internet isn't helping either. The people who are freaking out over this obviously haven't been out in the real horse world. This is nothing compared to the things I've and others have seen. I just think everyone is overreacting.

That horse is fine, I bet it doesn't even have a scratch, mentally or physically. I still respect that rider.
     
    01-01-2010, 10:49 PM
  #44
Weanling
Nobody can control how many people "call her out". And since the rider is the cause in the first place, why wouldn't you call her out? She is the problem.
And besides, the more people there are to make somebody aware, the more powerful the message gets across.
     
    01-01-2010, 10:49 PM
  #45
Trained
^ Wether or not to discpline a rear isn't the issue here - The issue is that the rider CAUSED the rear, did not take any disciplinary or evasive action while it was happening, and then after the fact beat the horse about the ears with a crop.

I am all for discipline - Kids and horses. But this situation could have been entirely avoided by considerate riding - Not hauling the horses butt into the ground a few strides after a jump, in draw reins. Especially if it is a young, green horse.

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The people who are freaking out over this obviously haven't been out in the real horse world.
I hate these statements - They are rarely true. One of the people who is speaking against this is a trainer/rider/clinician with over 40 years experience in the 'real' horse world.
     
    01-01-2010, 10:52 PM
  #46
Weanling
Forgot to add;
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Originally Posted by Equestriun    
That horse is fine, I bet it doesn't even have a scratch, mentally or physically. I still respect that rider.
How can you look at that horse and say that he's fine? He's confused and pissed off!
     
    01-01-2010, 11:47 PM
  #47
Foal
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
Please pay attention and read all the posts before making accusations. The girl who posted this is NOT the rider. As much as I disagree with the video, attacking the OP when it wasn't her just makes you look foolish and causes misconceptions and bad reputations.

Um I was talking about the rider! I did read the posts, I wasn't speaking to the person who posted it. Sorry I just clicked on the video thinking to see a horse rearing, then I see that person whacking the horse on the head. I just was in complete shock. Then I read the post and saw people thought the same thing I did and then I responded. Sorry I was so mad I used really bad Grammar! I was NOT calling the poster stupid!!! I was calling the rider STUPID because what they did was VERY stupid and only a ill-educated horse person would do that to there equine friend. I see people dis people in videos all the time on here call them names and such.
     
    01-01-2010, 11:59 PM
  #48
Super Moderator
Oh, my....where do I start??


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Originally Posted by Equestriun    
To tell you the truth, if I saw a kid acting up then I would hope the mother would smack him/her, and I know most of you will probably take this the wrong way, like everything else. My whole family, and I were raised that if you talked back or acted out then you would get reprimanded, if that meant a butt spanking, then so be it. I turned out great and so didn't my family and many other people I know. That's the problem with most (not all) kids these days, their parents didn't discipline them enough.

I will agree there. The is precious little discipline being taught to our children. I sure received my share of butt whippings


And that goes the same for horses.People tend to forget that these are still wild animals; they aren't your children. They can kill you if you don't fix a a problem. I don't know about you, but I'd rather see the horse get reprimanded and get over it, then the rider falling off and dying. I lost my grandmother to a horse that bucked her off, and I would pick her life over a horses any day.


You need to chill a bit. You can't ride horses with fear in your heart and a chip on your shoulder. It is not a choice of me or him. It is the choice of constructive correction or pointless DEstructive correction.

I'm not saying she handled it the best way, but everyone calling the rider out over the internet isn't helping either. The people who are freaking out over this obviously haven't been out in the real horse world. This is nothing compared to the things I've and others have seen. I just think everyone is overreacting.


My dear, I have been training horses, I suspect, longer than you have been alive. As such, you need to be careful with statements like that.
Just because you have seen far worse, we are supposed to feel good? Who do you hang with that you accept that as normal? Just asking.

That horse is fine, I bet it doesn't even have a scratch, mentally or physically. I still respect that rider.

I will debate this one with you, right now. On the third rear, the horse is cowering and, obviously, expecting the ear strikes. I doubt the horse has the slightest clue WHY she is being beaten. THAT is the point. I spent a career reschooling horses damaged by such treatment. They learn to expect violence whenever they don't understand something and make a mistake. Eventually, they start to panic the moment they don't understand anything. THIS can make them dangerous. This horse was ridden onto that rear by poor technique.


Be careful making sweeping remarks about people's experiences. I suspect there are many people here who know what they are talking about in this REAL WORLD..
     
    01-02-2010, 12:27 AM
  #49
Foal
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Originally Posted by Equestriun    
To tell you the truth, if I saw a kid acting up then I would hope the mother would smack him/her, and I know most of you will probably take this the wrong way, like everything else. My whole family, and I were raised that if you talked back or acted out then you would get reprimanded, if that meant a butt spanking, then so be it. I turned out great and so didn't my family and many other people I know. That's the problem with most (not all) kids these days, their parents didn't discipline them enough. And that goes the same for horses. People tend to forget that these are still wild animals; they aren't your children. They can kill you if you don't fix a a problem. I don't know about you, but I'd rather see the horse get reprimanded and get over it, then the rider falling off and dying. I lost my grandmother to a horse that bucked her off, and I would pick her life over a horses any day.

I'm not saying she handled it the best way, but everyone calling the rider out over the internet isn't helping either. The people who are freaking out over this obviously haven't been out in the real horse world. This is nothing compared to the things I've and others have seen. I just think everyone is overreacting.

That horse is fine, I bet it doesn't even have a scratch, mentally or physically. I still respect that rider.
You say right in your statement that you would get smacked in the butt. That horse was hit with a whip in the Face! I agree if my horse is misbehaving I will give her a good wack on the tushie, but in her face? That is just out of line and will not correct the rearing problem and can make the horse rear more. Which makes the situation worse and more dangerous. Im sorry to hear your grandmother died, but saying you respect a rider that hits a horse in the face to correct a rearing problem is wrong.
     
    01-02-2010, 01:24 AM
  #50
Green Broke
Equestriun, you missed the entire point. Nobody is upset with the level of discipline - people are ticked that someone could "discipline" an animal for doing nothing more then what the rider literally asked him to do as cause of her actions.

The fact that you can't see this makes me a little lulzy that you seem fit to criticize anyone else as not being a part of the "real horse world".
     

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