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I Feel This Could've Been Handled Differently

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#1 ·
I dont know if this was posted before(sorry if it was) but I felt this girl could've totally handled this situation differently. What do you think?

 
#38 ·
I might not of watched the same videos you guys did but the other ones shes in he trys to buck even lunging and being free lunged and then bareback (she didn't have spurs in that video). So I wouldn't fully blame it on the rider Clearly this pony has a attitude. He didn't even want to walk away from the other horse and was trying whatever he could to get out of doing work. In the other videos he follows her and she shows him lots of affection? Everyone I ride with no matter how "big" of a buck it is, it is not acceptable. I'm not saying if your horse bucks beat them up but I am saying they should have a consiquence, because it could get worse and be very dangerous. They have done studies and poven that horses have a mind of a elephant, So I bet he knows exactly what he got in trouble for, even tho I do agree that it was a little delayed. She was smiling in all the videos that she got bucked off in, so she wasn't smiling because she got to hit her horse, cleary her and her friends think its funny when he bucks her off. So I wouldn't take it to the extream of wishing harm upon this girl for thinking its funny to get bucked off. I just don't get how you think correcting a horse for bucking is so wrong but wishing this girl gets hurt is just fine and dandy??? I'm not trying to start a fight and don't take this the wrong way! (this isn't written to be snobby in any way) I am just curious what you would suggest this girl do everytime he bucks her off or bucks on a lung line?
 
#42 ·
dressagexlee, what I especially admire in the first video is how the rider gave the horse his head when he went up. That can be rather difficult to do, the horse goes up, your trying to keep your seat, but one wrong pull and that ****** is going either backwards or on his side with you!

The second rider handled beautifully as well. Just kept him moving and working to refocus him instead of just giving up or panicking.

And that pony is NOT being temperamental, just agitated and provoked. I've ridden horses that have bucked and reared on purpose and I did NOT beat them around the head for it. Sam was a special kind of evil his first ride in two years. I kept getting off, lunging, getting back on, asking him out, getting off, lunging, getting back on, going out. He was quite fun once he got focused though, fine horse, just sour.
 
#47 ·
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Really? Nobody is tearing apart this girls riding - people are commenting about the mistreatment of an animal from a video that was posted on a PUBLIC domain. As far as I can tell, everyone here is well within the rules of HF.


 
#50 ·
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Really? Nobody is tearing apart this girls riding - people are commenting about the mistreatment of an animal from a video that was posted on a PUBLIC domain. As far as I can tell, everyone here is well within the rules of HF.




Well, I guess if it makes folks feel better to run someone else down - go for it.
 
#48 ·
^^Thank you MM. Otherwise we would have to go through all those videos posted of the abuse from the dairy farmers and auction houses and request permission from the owners that we comment on the abuse. I wonder if Pat Parelli would have given us his permission to comment on his handling of Catwalk in the UK? Or that naked French guy that did a SJ round bareback? Imagine the critiques we REALLY could have posted!

Sometimes vidoes are posted on this forum to promote discussion and as far as I understand, that is OK.
 
#51 ·
Frankly, with the preface on the video "this shows animal abuse" or whatever it said (I'm not watching it again), plus the fact that the poster didn't allow comments, I think the people taking this video and posting it KNEW that they were doing the wrong thing, and were taking some sad satisfaction in doing it.
 
#53 ·
lol wow that girl in the first cideo has no seat what so ever!!! but she did land on her feet lulz that was hardly a buck and it wasn't even a running buck it was like a bunny hop!! i dont think the pony deserved that o-o lulz my horse cantered away with me and jumped the small fence for the arena did i get off and beat the crap out of him noooooo
 
#57 ·
0:30, he should have kicked her in the face at that point. And.. how on earth did she fall off from that total 'non-buck?' lol. Its like she did it on purpose, so she could smack him. Poor pony... that is some bad horsemanship.
 
#58 ·
The youtuber had put in the description that it isnt her and she doesnt own the video, it was a repost or what ever. then why are there more vids of bert on her profile... and why are there video regarding this girl, Sam? Hmmmm
 
#59 ·
wow thats not a buck, poor pony. Hunter has taken to bucking now and for a little guy he has a pretty good buck. Hasn't got me outta the saddle yet - love my Aussie saddle. When he does it I just make him work more and he seems to get that bucking isn't gonna get him anywhere. Has a pretty good rear on him too, thought he was gonna go over with the trainer the other day. I brought her in immediately as I really don't need a bucking bronco these days lol
 
#62 · (Edited)
Wonderful horsewoman. What a bad fall. That horse deserved it. <<<<TOTALLY SARCASTIC
She is the WORST horsewoman in the WORLD, she landed on her FEET, and that horse was just being playful!!! If she loves that horse, then I love FALLING off of a horse. Her seat is just as bad as mine :oops: but that is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR BEATING UP THAT POOR HORSE!:evil::evil::evil:
 
#65 ·
All I can say is that young witch in training is going to get what she has been asking for. I can tell you that if my horse ever did that to me I would lay on the ground & thing what the crap I did to tick him/ her off.

She rides with spurs- if you look at her heels she keeps them up. If she was on Khanner I can tell you that it wouldn't have been just a buck it would have been a buck AND a flippen Lippizzaner show rear, like jump 6ft in the air rear.

Stupid people & their stupid horsemanship. She grinned when she did it. Wtf?!? I hope someone GOOD ends up with that pony...
So sad.
 
#68 ·
All I can say is that young witch in training is going to get what she has been asking for. I can tell you that if my horse ever did that to me I would lay on the ground & thing what the crap I did to tick him/ her off.

She rides with spurs- if you look at her heels she keeps them up. If she was on Khanner I can tell you that it wouldn't have been just a buck it would have been a buck AND a flippen Lippizzaner show rear, like jump 6ft in the air rear.

Stupid people & their stupid horsemanship. She grinned when she did it. Wtf?!? I hope someone GOOD ends up with that pony...
So sad.
Exactly this. She needs to learn some things about horseman ship.. and fast. Poor pony. Like the rest said, he isn't joining the whipping and 'bucking' together. It was the whip and being caught/standing still.
 
#66 ·
You know what really amazes me with people like this is their COMPLETE lack of understanding of what behaviour they are really punishing in the horse. Horses associate their most recent behaviour with the punishment, that is why we are supposed to punish or reward as appropiate IMMEDIATELY after the behaviour.

So is this girl punishing the horse for misbehaving? No. The last thing the horse did was allow itself to be caught. Then it was whipped. What a great way to train a horse to tip you off and then never be caught.

As much as it may hurt your pride, if you get tipped off and the horse gets away, the most counter productive thing you can do is punish it when you eventually catch up with it.
 
#67 ·
Absolutely ridiculous. That horse did nothing aggressive and even allowed itself to be caught again after she took her spill. He was like" Oh you fell off? Oooh, what's over there? Oh, you got me again, what are we doing n...Ouch, hey stop hitting me!" :roll:

Little brat.
 
#69 ·
That girl should not be allowed to be around horses! not now, not ever. sadly stuff like that happens all the time.. way too many riders punish their horse for "bad behavior" when really they should be punishing themselves for bad signals/riding or lack of attention to the horse. horses don't just buck for fun, often it's because of mixed signals from the rider or pain. pain in the back from rider and saddle is not uncommon. the pressure from the saddle and rider is very strong, and can actually stop the blood from running trough the horse's back wich causes the back to "fall asleep" - like when us humans sit with a leg up in the air or over another leg for example, so that the the blood supply(not sure if this is the right word - i'm danish so i'm not that good at english) stops and the leg starts to become almost numb and then stars to hurt. same thing happens to the horses back - no wonder the horse then tries to throw off the rider. and the mixed signals; like we see in the video, the rider is both kicking the horse and pulling the reins, telling the horse to both go and stop. so he can't really go and he can't really stop. what's the only direction left? up - bucking.
 
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