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    08-09-2010, 09:24 AM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
One thing that really jumped out in that video is your friend looks way too big for the pony or horse not sure as it wasn't a good view and it looked like it was difficult for the horse to keep it's balance. Just a thought and glad everyone is going to be ok.
I was going to say the same thing. Not trying to be rude just putting it bluntly...riding a horse that's too small for you is just asking for an accident. However I am still glad both horse and rider will be alright and praying for speedy recoveries.
     
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    08-09-2010, 12:08 PM
  #12
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by SlickDirtyDancin    
I was going to say the same thing. Not trying to be rude just putting it bluntly...riding a horse that's too small for you is just asking for an accident. However I am still glad both horse and rider will be alright and praying for speedy recoveries.
She just pointed out that the horse is 15.3hh. At 15.3hh, there is no such thing as a person being "to big for her" unless he weighs 400lbs.

Horses trip, it happens. Have you seen the guys who do steer wrestling? They're MASSIVE and their horses sure as heck aren't that big.

I'm glad your friend is ok, always scary when things like this happen!
     
    08-09-2010, 06:47 PM
  #13
Foal
Ow. I'm glad they are fine though.
     
    08-09-2010, 07:33 PM
  #14
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Phantomcolt18    
Churumbeque-no she's about 15.3 and very, very stocky/full of muscle. He's had horses over 40 some yrs and knows what he's doing he would never get on a horse if it was going to be unconfortable for them.....Thanks for your concern though :)

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I have no idea how tall the horse is or saying this is the case here but it is amazing how many people think there horse is a different height than it really is and I have seen people that are way off on knowing how big a horse is. I see it in the forum all the time and then when it gets pointed out the real hieght comes out to be much differently then 1st thought. A lady came for lessons this week and her horse is 3" taller than she thought it was.
     
    08-09-2010, 08:24 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
She just pointed out that the horse is 15.3hh. At 15.3hh, there is no such thing as a person being "to big for her" unless he weighs 400lbs.

MacabreMikolaj I respect for your posts, but this statement is very untrue. It completely depends on the horse's build, health, and the rider's weight distribution and ability. Here are a few horses around the same height, 15.2 to 15.3, and I would put different types of people on each of them.
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Phantomcolt18, I hope your friend has a fast recovery, but I am in the camp that wonders if his mount isn't too small for a big rider, and/or he might want to consider some lessons just to brush up on balance.
     
    08-09-2010, 09:40 PM
  #16
Green Broke
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From the video, it is obvious the person on her is not overly "fat". So I would assume that what was meant is that the person is to tall. And unless that person is closing in on 7'0" tall, 15.3hh is a height that ANY person can ride.

To say that this person is to big for this horse and hence that is what caused the fall is somewhat ridiculous in my opinion. A lot of things could have caused this fall, but a man riding a 15.3hh stock horse was not one of them.

A child of 5'0" and weighing 100lbs could have caused this fall on a 17hh by throwing off the centre of balance. 99% of the horses in rodeo are UNDER 16hh and ridden by 200lb+ and 6'0"+ men, so the statement that he's to big for her is a bit silly. Heck, even if she IS only 15hh, the statement is still silly. Size doesn't matter if you're not riding properly, ANY size person could have caused an accident.

And as it was her HIND end that went down first, I say bad step and not rider error at all. Rider error usually accounts for front end slips from travelling to heavy on the forehand - this mare simply lost the footing and her hind end couldn't keep up with her front end.

And for the record, as "dainty" as an Arabian may look, she could carry just as much weight as the QH you posted. Appearances are deciveing and people constantly saying "you're to big!" is silly. I am 5'7" and 200lbs and I ride a 14.3hh Arab that has ZERO problems packing me around for days at a time, and also wins at gaming.

     
    08-10-2010, 04:33 AM
  #17
Weanling
Just to be clear I completely meant the riders height and male type build(NOT implying that he is overweight or fat at all) was too much for that horse. It is one thing for a person of that height and build to do everyday riding on a horse of that size but doing speed events that involve high paces and quick turns could throw the horse off balance easily. However I have never met the man or the horse so I can't say my theories as to what happened are right or wrong.

And I fully agree to the poster talking about people believing their horses are taller than the horse really is. I see it more often than not and have actually surprised my friends by getting out a measuring device and showing them.
     
    08-10-2010, 08:37 AM
  #18
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Phantom, how is your friend doing? I hope he is recovering well.
     
    08-10-2010, 07:58 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
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From the video, it is obvious the person on her is not overly "fat". So I would assume that what was meant is that the person is to tall. And unless that person is closing in on 7'0" tall, 15.3hh is a height that ANY person can ride.

To say that this person is to big for this horse and hence that is what caused the fall is somewhat ridiculous in my opinion. A lot of things could have caused this fall, but a man riding a 15.3hh stock horse was not one of them.

A child of 5'0" and weighing 100lbs could have caused this fall on a 17hh by throwing off the centre of balance. 99% of the horses in rodeo are UNDER 16hh and ridden by 200lb+ and 6'0"+ men, so the statement that he's to big for her is a bit silly. Heck, even if she IS only 15hh, the statement is still silly. Size doesn't matter if you're not riding properly, ANY size person could have caused an accident.

And as it was her HIND end that went down first, I say bad step and not rider error at all. Rider error usually accounts for front end slips from travelling to heavy on the forehand - this mare simply lost the footing and her hind end couldn't keep up with her front end.

And for the record, as "dainty" as an Arabian may look, she could carry just as much weight as the QH you posted. Appearances are deciveing and people constantly saying "you're to big!" is silly. I am 5'7" and 200lbs and I ride a 14.3hh Arab that has ZERO problems packing me around for days at a time, and also wins at gaming.
I agree.

We have a 13.5 HH Arabian pony named Thunder, who had a real bad habit of bolting into a gallop constantly when we first got him. He has an endless amount of energy and loves to run. Needless to say we didn't know any one small that had the experience to teach the horse better manners.

I am 6'1" 200lbs and decided I would get on him figuring he would not want to run with my heavy butt on his back. Needless to say he took off as if I was not even on his back. Taking me by surprise, I went for a crazy ride jumping a five foot wide ditch and zig zaging through other obstacles covering about 500 yards in a hurry before I got him to start listening to me and regaining control. Despite me weighing 30% of thunders weight, Thunder never missed a step.

I have rode him a few times and now he is a great horse to ride, and my size has never meant a thing to him.

Horses are far stronger than most people give them credit for.

IMHO the horse in the video simply tripped, it can happen to any horse and has nothing to do with the size of the rider.
     
    08-10-2010, 10:09 PM
  #20
Green Broke
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I used to do speed events on the 14hh dam of my current Arab, and I was pushing 180lbs back then. She couldn't have been more then 700lbs, so she was packing 25% of her own weight and that little spitfire rode me into the ground on numerous occasions. I got so fed up with fighting her one day, I finally said "Fine you spinny witch, run til you drop!" That lunatic galloped me full tilt the entire 10 miles home and me having a heart attack thinking I'd killed her. I rubbed her down with liniment and the next morning I could barely get out of bed and she was prancing around that pasture still rarin' to go!

Size of the horse has VERY little to do with incidents like this - as I already stated, he could have been on a 17hh horse and if he's not balancing her properly, he's going to have a wreck regardless. Smaller horses actually tend to be MUCH more nimble, agile and sure footed then larger ones anyway!

Photo of me riding my little Arab mare back in the day!






     

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