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        10-05-2010, 09:39 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Video has been flagged. There are ways to go about breaking in a small pony, and this is not one of them.
         
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        10-05-2010, 10:03 PM
      #12
    Trained
    People are idiots.
         
        10-05-2010, 11:20 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    My concern with this is the very real, potential and probable damage to the pony. This is obviously more of a miniature breed, and the enormous beating his spine and joints are taking makes me cringe. Ponies are tough, but ones this small simply are in NO way built to be taking 150+ pounds slamming on their backs.

    Videos like this remind me of the very infamous passage in Black Beauty where John gets very rightly outraged by the mention of "ignorance". Maybe this isn't as delibrately intentful as whipping a tied horse, but the potential for damage both mentally AND physically is JUST as high, if not higher.

    Sometimes I feel we need to ignore "intentions" and focus on the level of suffering the animal is enduring - I don't think it makes it any more right to cripple and torture an animal just because you "didn't know any better". It's still abuse and the horse certainly doesn't differentiate between intention and ignorance.
         
        10-06-2010, 01:46 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I am with Carleen and ImagineThat...the pony needs to be broken. Yes, it could have been done better, but a small kid trying to break a pony is normally not a good idea. They could have tried to find a smaller adult to do it....
         
        10-06-2010, 10:31 AM
      #15
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
    My concern with this is the very real, potential and probable damage to the pony. This is obviously more of a miniature breed, and the enormous beating his spine and joints are taking makes me cringe. Ponies are tough, but ones this small simply are in NO way built to be taking 150+ pounds slamming on their backs.

    Videos like this remind me of the very infamous passage in Black Beauty where John gets very rightly outraged by the mention of "ignorance". Maybe this isn't as delibrately intentful as whipping a tied horse, but the potential for damage both mentally AND physically is JUST as high, if not higher.

    Sometimes I feel we need to ignore "intentions" and focus on the level of suffering the animal is enduring - I don't think it makes it any more right to cripple and torture an animal just because you "didn't know any better". It's still abuse and the horse certainly doesn't differentiate between intention and ignorance.

    I can understand what you are saying..... but that pony didn't have any problems jumping around and bucking with that guy! :)
    And he really looks like a smaller man.... I doubt he's 150 + lbs. I totally agree it should have been handled differently, but at least he didn't beat the little thing.
    Maybe they don't have access to a small female adult to get on the pony. I just don't think the video deserves that much criticism.... there are way worse things happening out there.
         
        10-06-2010, 06:53 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    That saddle is way too big - it's on the pony's croup. The guy would be too big for the pony even if it was broke. There are plenty of smaller/lighter people around to train ponies.
         
        10-06-2010, 08:15 PM
      #17
    Banned
    Sorry, this is two rednecks playing rodeo.

    If you really wanted to break the pony, it would have been lunged and/or ground driven, bellied over and mounted in a stall or small confined area before being mounted in a roundpen.

    I broke a fair number of long yearlings in race training; most went from unhandled to galloping on the track in 30 - 60 days, most *never* bucked.

    These guys set this up, including having a videographer present (!) to produce a "show."

    I'm sure this pony went from this experience to child safe in no time at all - NOT!
         
        10-06-2010, 09:38 PM
      #18
    Foal
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
    Too many videos like this. Its like, "oh, let's ride the bucking toy today and have fun!"
         
        10-07-2010, 04:49 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Do people not realize that the pony might never have bucked with a child on its back? Pain will cause the pony to lash out in ways it might never have.

    Poor pony.
         
        10-08-2010, 01:38 AM
      #20
    Foal
    I don't see much wrong either. I mean if you want a ride-able horse you have to break it first. The clapping and laughing probably didn't help to much either, and they should've respected the pony a little more. Other than that I don't see anything wrong with this situation. =/
         

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