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post #11 of 104 Old 06-30-2012, 08:23 PM
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i am very concerned for you. I don't want you to get hurt, and this looks exceedingly dangerous. One time she may loose her balance and come backward on top of you.

I have heard people say to smack the horse in the belly when it goes up, becaue it will curl up and go back down again to escape. I dont' know it that is wise, but letting her do it that many times is not wise either, IMO.
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post #12 of 104 Old 06-30-2012, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iloverains View Post
ohh - kinda sounds mean :P hahaha, but yeah, if she continues I will have to try it.

what i did yesterday was flick her ears, like whack the end of them, she didn't like it and stopped her rearing majority of the time... but thank you (: :P
Flicking her ears to get her to stop rearing isn't a good idea. Next thing you'll have is a headshy horse who won't let you get near it's ears.

I cant see the video so I can't give you anymore advice than that as I can't see why she seems to rearing.
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Thanks tinyliny - I do agree, but I had to win (and I did) I'm not going to do the same again today, I will walk her down the road (on foot) then mount down where I ride as she is quite happy once we're down there.

My Mum was watching me (filming) and I asked to tell me if she does get to high, and yes she did nearly get vertical and yes she could loose her balance, but not once did she feel like she was going to go over backwards. if she did I would have stopped and done something else.

Don't know how I would manage to smack her belly while on her (as she doesn't rear when im on the ground) but I get what you're getting at. And yeah, her doing it that many times, I wasn't trying to let her, and stopped majority of the rears (by flicking her ears) but yeah, if she trys to rear once today, i will hop off and lung her or some other punishment for my safety.
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Originally Posted by ThirteenAcres View Post
Flicking her ears to get her to stop rearing isn't a good idea. Next thing you'll have is a headshy horse who won't let you get near it's ears.

I cant see the video so I can't give you anymore advice than that as I can't see why she seems to rearing.

Yeah - I was thinking about that, but I made sure she wasn't getting to touchy or annoyed. and I did touch her ears and give her a scratch/pat when she was being good. and do it all the time, thank you though.
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post #15 of 104 Old 06-30-2012, 08:54 PM
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I, personally, have yet to have a horse get headshy from me smacking at their heads when they flick it up or rear.
I actually take a crop or small stick and smack them in between their ears. If I don't happen to have either (for whatever reason) I'll yank their face around to my foot before they get high enough to become too unbalanced, but will use my hand on their poll if I don't catch it low enough, but they're still in the process of going up. Smacking their ears/head doesn't work (IME) if they're already up as far as they plan on going though.

I also don't use stirrups on a horse that rears, especially if the stirrups are narrow and hug my boot. I'd rather be able to jump straight off if they start to go over backwards than have to worry about my stirrups when I jump off to the side. I think that if I'm willing to work with rearers (because I am) that I should give myself the most safety precautions (aside from a helmet, but I have reasoning) to get the job done. I rode one of the best and most trainable horse ever, and he was a chronic rearer. He never went over, but he constantly reared as soon as you tried to switch up what you were doing, and he turned out to be a (decently, because I didn't have any more training time with him since his owner was moving to another barn) sane barrel horse. A 16.2h clydesdale x that ran a 16-17second barrel pattern at fair, and didn't rear at the gate or before a pattern. That horse is the only reason I'll work with a rearer, because of how successful I made him. If a horse is consistently going over backwards, I'll probably pass, but if they've never went over, I'm almost positive that I would grab at the chance to work with it.
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Im really not trying to be rude when i say this...but...Rearing that frequently is a training problem. There is something going on that has more to do with a horse that just likes to rear. Just my opinion.

I don't see the benefit of a punishment over a training correction nor see the benefit of smacking a horse around the head. I don't know how many horses you've smacked in the ears with a crop, etc but perhaps you were lucky to not have had consequences.

I have seen and had to correct a lot of horses with head shy issues and they all stemmed from a previous owner thinking that was a proper way to discipline.

Again, can't see the video so I can't really see why the horse seems to be rearing, but hoping a continuously rearing horse won't go over or that flicking it ears will correct the issue is how a rider will end up seriously hurt.

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It seems obvious to me she is rearing to avoid going in that one direction. She seems to be having a snit about just having to work. I would be very leery of a horse that uses rearing as an avoidance mechanism. Your comment about if she seems to be going to high you would stop has a flaw. It only takes once of going to high to be tragic. I once dodged the bullet on a horse that reared because he did it once and was totally vertical. I kicked loose and got off him, but he was so overbalanced he had to step back to keep from falling. He hit my thigh with his hoof before he regained his balance and went forward. She is so out of control during this that she is dangerous.

Can you keep her spinning for any amount of time to keep her feet moving and on the ground? If you let her go back can you then work her in the area she thinks is a non working place? I mean make her work at home and relax away?
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I know we aren't supposed to critique but I'd get off, snap a lungeline on, make her work forward. Rearing.. so bad.
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It says user has not made video viewable to mobile devices so I really can't help much here but the lunging idea sounded good. I would make her REALLY have to work (on the lung line) for that behavior. Then there's the question- did she win because I got off when she was rearing?
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I will tell you something you don't seem to understand. Just because she "seems to be well balanced" when rearing and you don't think she will go over, don't count on her staying upright and believe me, it will happen in a flash.
I had a thoroughbred who did the same thing as this girl, however I was young and didn't feel it was a problem, felt the horse would not go over, felt he would take care of me. Guess what? The day he went over almost killed me, he ended on his back and me underneath......
This horse will go over on you, no doubt in my mind.
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