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post #21 of 35 Old 11-09-2010, 05:56 PM
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From the video, it sounded as if their idea behind it was more-so creating "leaner, quicker to cook" meats than feeding the hungry. If they were developing these over-muscled cows to feed the starving people of the world then I would respect the practice a little more - but this, to me, looks like a group of scientists who feel that because they are "above" an animal, they can do whatever they want to it for their own satisfaction (and that of their bank accounts).

Not to start an animal rights argument or anything, but I definitely see no "good" behind what they are doing.
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How do you think the world is getting fed with more and more people and less and less land. Turkeys are the same way. There is much more demand for the breast than for any other part so they have been selectively bred to have massive breasts (like hollywood actresses). The breasts are so large that they can not breed naturally or fly but that is where the money is. Of course these cattle are being used to feed the hungry. If it wasn't for selective breeding in all food animals we would ALL be hungry. A beef cow produces about 20 pounds of milk per day at the peak of her gestation but it is not uncommon for a good dairy cow to produce 100 pounds per day. This is why milk is readily available and relatively cheap. They have been selectively bred to be milk producers. Scientists and producers go where the demand is. They also have bills to pay.

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Carleen, do you eat beef? Then you are contributing to the need for these types of animals. There is simply not enough room in the world to raise the amount of beef demanded worldwide. Like Kevin has said, it's happening to many animals we eat.

Salmon and other fish are now farmed, chickens raised in cramped quarters to fit as many as possible on a farm, turkeys with huge breasts, too many dairy cows to an acre...happens more then you may think. It's an issue of wether we want to force the world to go vegetarian (which we DEFINITELY don't have the land for) or have crazy raising/breeding practices.
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I wouldn't call any of it crazy. Dairy cows are the most pampered animals on earth. They stay in a very clean enviroment and all they have to do is lay around and eat.

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Many Dairy cows are raised well yes...but there are always exceptions. By many people's standards many of the animals we eat are raised in conditions less then they would expect.

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I wouldn't call any of it crazy. Dairy cows are the most pampered animals on earth. They stay in a very clean enviroment and all they have to do is lay around and eat.
Jeesh, tell me about it! They get water beds, and sand beds, and free choice feed that gets changed every day... I wish I had a water bed.
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Many Dairy cows are raised well yes...but there are always exceptions. By many people's standards many of the animals we eat are raised in conditions less then they would expect.
Most people don't know how any of the animals we eat are REALLY raised. Most people see the youtube videos by groups like HSUS and PETA and think that's real.

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Carleen, do you eat beef? Then you are contributing to the need for these types of animals. There is simply not enough room in the world to raise the amount of beef demanded worldwide. Like Kevin has said, it's happening to many animals we eat.

Salmon and other fish are now farmed, chickens raised in cramped quarters to fit as many as possible on a farm, turkeys with huge breasts, too many dairy cows to an acre...happens more then you may think. It's an issue of wether we want to force the world to go vegetarian (which we DEFINITELY don't have the land for) or have crazy raising/breeding practices.
No I do not, hence my very strong opinions on the subject.
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Oh great so now we're breeding for genetic disorders? Am I the only one who senses that this is a BAD idea?
Every animal has been selctivly bred. The horse you love and ride was probably selectively bred.

If you own a pure breed dog it was selectively bred. Englisg bull dog, for example, would barely exist if humans did not help them along. They can't breed well on their own. Most of them ar artificaly inseminated and have Csections because they cannot physically give birth.

It's people like those scientist that are the reason you are alive. I'm sure your parents weren't vegan or vegitarian. They ate meat. And no one's a vegan anyways. Everything you use everyday is made of some part of an animal. Not to be rude, but get over yourself. MORE MEAT FROM FEWER COWS. Sounds like a good idea to me.

I'm glad that there are practical people out there.

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Every animal has been selctively bred. The horse you love and ride was probably selectively bred.
Absolutely. All domestic animals, whether they're classified as pets or livestock, have been genetically altered by humans.

Those of you getting your noses out of joint about genetic manipulation shouldn't own any domestic animals, since no animal humanity breeds for its own purposes is without it to some degree.
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