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post #1 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 02:05 AM Thread Starter
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Teaching a Horse to Drive (Abusively)

I just had to post this. This is probably one of the most disgusting representations of horsemanship I've ever seen. And they post this on YouTube for entertainment?
I've never driven a horse, let alone taught one how to drive, but I can say this: UR DOIN IT WRONG.


What is the thought process of "trainers" like these?
"Let's confuse our hot, green horse by having two people whip him around in a circle, and then we'll hook him up to a twelve-foot cart! That'll teach him how to drive! Don't forget the misfitting tack that keeps falling off or slipping! Hell, bring the whole crew out to the barn and we'll chase him around and hit him in the face and pull on his mouth! We'll watch him fall over, get tangled up, buck and rear, bolt, and everything else! PAR-TAY!"


People just baffle me. These idiots could probably screw up with asking a well-schooled horse to walk.
There's a method known as longe-lining, contraptions called training buggies, attributes like patience and good horsemanship, and an apparently dying wisdom called common sense.

A disgrace to equestrianism, to driving, and to Poland all in one video.

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post #2 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 02:10 AM
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well, atleast it looks like she broke the cart??? What a beautiful baby too...and undoubtedly has some major 'untraining' to do after that...

This would be the equivalent to old time roughstock cowboys bucking out a horse...sure, it might eventually get the job done, but to what end to the horse? That horse didn't understand lunging let alone what they were doing when they hooked up the cart to him.

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post #3 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 02:25 AM
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They shouldn't have even taken her out of the barn aisle until they could calmly put FITTING tack onto her without her prancing. Being as this is one of my favorite songs, I feel that I can get some insight into their mindset. They think the horse is being wild and 'rebelling'. However this is obviously not the case, it is fear. Well, at least she broke their horrendous equipment at the very end. I hate to be judgmental, but that horse looks extremely well bred and it makes me wonder how they got their hands on her.

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post #4 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 03:01 AM
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You guys don't actually know the worst of it , in former warsaw pact countries there are 3 types of horse people

There are the rich - horses are for the most well looked after , and have lives that wouldn't be much different from that of western countries

There are Pesants ( not joking ) -again horses for these people are for the most well looked after - or as best as they can, they are not abused but are a means of transport and money, mares are preferable as they can produce a foal every year that can be sold for meat. What would be seen as abuse in the eyes of westerners is just either a matter of ignorance or a lack of money, tack is often poor , scraped together from whatever they can find and very old. The horses are worked until they are either too old or have an injury that cannot be fixed - they can't afford vets - and then the animal is again sold for meat.

And then there are - lets call them ........ - these people will look all over the country for horses that no one else wants, young horses , geldings , problem horses , meat horses etc. They will subject the horses to a very short , rough handling methods that do one of two things, the horse will be ' broken in spirit ' and become docile ( one way of thinking is that the horse shoulld be so scared that it dare not mess about ) , the horse is then sold onto the pesants or to stupid rich people .
If a horse behaves in the manner in this video it will probably end up as salami by the end of the week as these people have no time to train it properly.



Sorry to be blunt but that is how it is over here - I am speaking from first hand experiance. I am not saying that all people from eastern block countries abuse horses, many love their horses the same way that you do - Hungary, where I live, has a long history of being a horse nation but there are still people here that are not Magyars ( proper hungarians ) who are for the most part responsible for most of the abusive behavior.
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post #5 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 03:43 AM
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I dread to think what happened to the horse afterwards.

This kind of ignorant horsemanship doesn't just happen in eastern europe, I know of some horses that have had similar 'training' in the UK.

I bought a horse a number of years ago that had been broken to ride and drive as a yearling (the driving part not unlike that horse in the video) There are some unscrupulous people here that like to break their horses as yearlings as they don't put up much of a fight as they might as a mature horse. I didn't know any of this at the time but I later met up with a former owner of the horse and a horse dealer who had known him since he was a foal and I got to find out his history.
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post #6 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 10:05 AM
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I voted for abuse, because "stupidity" wasn't offered in the poll.
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post #7 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 11:42 AM
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that's disgusting, you can tell that horse was absolutely scared!! They should not have had those children anywhere around them either, that's just endangering their lives.
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post #8 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 11:50 AM
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The part that gets me the most out of it all is when they are trying to lead it with the other horse and it rears up you can see the lady in the blue shirt on the cart smiling about it! Wow. Pause it at a minute 53 seconds.
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post #9 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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And the worst part of it is, they are smiling like they think it's cute. }:(

Why can't the stupid people ever get hurt instead of the poor horse.

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post #10 of 26 Old 01-23-2010, 12:09 PM
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I hope the woman who fell head first got impaled by a nail and kicked in the head. Oy vei - you know you're an idiot when you try to "rough-break" a horse and STILL end up doing it wrong.

The much more standard way to "rough-break" a horse to driving is to basically get yourself a large field, hook him up and just let him run until he's done. I don't agree with it much more, it's still an implementation of fear, but if you're worth much as a trainer, at least you can half-assed get the job done without putting a ton of danger in either yourself or the horse by just allowing the horse to respond to it's flight trigger.

At least he busted up the cart. With that ill-fitting harness, fugly bobsled and fat middle aged women without a clue, let's hope they're to piss poor broke to find another one. Oh wait, that probably means they'll be hitching the car up to him next.

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"HOW HAVE YOU NOT BEEN EATEN BY COYOTES YET?!?!?!"

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