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        11-03-2010, 01:55 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Amarea    
    I hate to say this, but that video reminded me of a pitbull fight. The palomino tried to walk away and was subsequently led back and forced to confront the other. Then they went at it and you broke them up for it. If I was one of those horses, I would have been VERY confused. First you force the confrontation and then you break it up. IMO, this was a bad way to go about things. I agree with the person who said less human interaction.
    This is what I was thinking.
         
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        11-03-2010, 01:55 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Amarea    
    I hate to say this, but that video reminded me of a pitbull fight.
    I thought the exact same thing and the thought of this type of behaviour going on for 20 minutes is frightening.
         
        11-03-2010, 03:05 PM
      #13
    Started
    Sometimes two horses just don't need to be together. We have a pair that not matter HOW LONG they're in adjacent pens, they never show a sign of getting along. Do these horses HAVE to be together?
         
        11-03-2010, 07:19 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Ok, with all due respect, we expected some fireworks we did NOT expect that level of intensity. The other option was to simply let the cowboys throw her out with the herd and figure it out herself. We did everything we possibly could to make it as safe as possible for them.

    Yes, if Justus wants a stall for winter, she HAS to be boarded with this mare. Obviously if they can't sort this out, we'll have to look at not having Justus indoor boarded this winter.

    I can respect your opinions, but I am a little offended that some people are acting like we delibrately did this to see a big fight. We expected some squealing and kicking, and we were trying to keep them away from the rail. No, she probably shouldn't have been led directly back to Jessie, but if we had known they were going to attack each other that viciously, we WOULD have done it differently.

    In the end, neither of them are my horse and it's not my decision.
         
        11-03-2010, 07:36 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
    Ok, with all due respect, we expected some fireworks we did NOT expect that level of intensity. The other option was to simply let the cowboys throw her out with the herd and figure it out herself. We did everything we possibly could to make it as safe as possible for them.

    Yes, if Justus wants a stall for winter, she HAS to be boarded with this mare. Obviously if they can't sort this out, we'll have to look at not having Justus indoor boarded this winter.

    I can respect your opinions, but I am a little offended that some people are acting like we delibrately did this to see a big fight. We expected some squealing and kicking, and we were trying to keep them away from the rail. No, she probably shouldn't have been led directly back to Jessie, but if we had known they were going to attack each other that viciously, we WOULD have done it differently.

    In the end, neither of them are my horse and it's not my decision.
    we didnt say you made them fight because you wanted to. We were saying that you helped cause it then cut them off.

    They sould not be togeth any way but things might have gone diffrently.
         
        11-03-2010, 07:37 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    BTW no one was being rude or attacking you in any way. We are just saying what we see.
         
        11-03-2010, 07:42 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    When you say that she has to be boarded with the other mare in order to be indoor stalled through the winter do you mean they have to be turned out together? Or are they being let loose in the indoor arena for exercise? I think your options are wait and see if they calm down together or keep them separated. You run a risk of one getting injured if they continue this behavior. I'm just trying to understand if they HAVE to be loose together... If they are going to be turned out is the space that they are being turned out in big enough for one of them to escape the attack if necessary?

    I've seen this because Willow and Annalie did it yesterday when I was bringing them in to feed. But it lasted for five seconds and I didn't interfere for fear of getting injured myself. Instead I just worked a different way to bring them all in without those two being left alone outside together waiting for food.

    I was nonchalantly watching your video when all the ruckus broke out it scared the living daylight out of me. Good luck with them. Looks like you need it. : )
         
        11-03-2010, 07:54 PM
      #18
    Foal
    I have found with my gelding whom is boss that you just have to put a horse with him, and let them figure it out. The more you interfere the more it makes it worse. Also, give them a large area, with maybe some grass or lots of little hay piles, let them find eachother on thier own...
         
        11-03-2010, 08:11 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sarahver    
    Well, sometimes it is better to have less human involvement than you think. See how when you first let them go the chestnut stared down the pally and the pally walked past, backed his ears but continued on following you out? Both horses were 100% aware of the other but neither had really made the first move of introductions.

    By leading the pally back to the chestnut and to get them to introduce that way, it is a human centric way of thinking - 'if we get the introduction out of the way then the worst is over' when in reality horses have much more subtle language than this, especially with two dominant horses. It may well have taken the two of them 20 mins or longer to actually get to the stage where they sniff and squeal at each other, but this is by no means 'time wasted'. This allows them some time and space to judge a little for themselves the best approach to the situation. By forcing them to have a direct introduction when you led the pally straight back to the chestnut, they really had no time to suss out each other before deciding on their own how to go about introductions. The reaction you had was quite extreme and I hope that both horses are OK.
    I was thinking the same thing but could not have worded it so well. They stayed seperated on purpose.
         
        11-03-2010, 08:13 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    I agree with those that say some horses just should not be kept together. My first horse was a very low on the totem pole horse, and because of this he just could not be in the larger gelding group at the farm where I boarded him. The dominate gelding in that group did not stop chasing, kicking him, etc and poor Dunny basically just took it. He ended it up in a pasture with just one other horse. He still go a good kick now and then, but for the most part it was peaceful. The second gelding I had couldn't be put in with anybody else because he thought he was Mr. Hot Stuff. Poor BO had to reinforce the fence several times between him and the two geldings next to them. The two gelding would just stand there minding their own business and Rocket would just squeal and kick the fence like crazy. Some horses just don't do well with others.
         

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