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        04-29-2010, 01:57 PM
      #11
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    Why exactly is there no cantering for another year? And then no jumping for another year after that?


    Your best bet might be to find a trainer or a barn owner you trust and see if they know anyone looking to lease. Since you have so many restrictions (no cantering is a pretty big restriction) it will be hard to find a good leaser. If you did it thru a barn owner or trainer you know and trust you will at least know they will be looking out for her best interest when you are not there.
         
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        04-29-2010, 03:30 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Why exactly is there no cantering for another year? And then no jumping for another year after that?


    Your best bet might be to find a trainer or a barn owner you trust and see if they know anyone looking to lease. Since you have so many restrictions (no cantering is a pretty big restriction) it will be hard to find a good leaser. If you did it thru a barn owner or trainer you know and trust you will at least know they will be looking out for her best interest when you are not there.

    She turns 6 in next year and that is when she is allowed to be cantered and jumped. I want no jumping period until then and light cantering once a week I will allow if I have to. Its safer for them I don't want a horse at 20 to be swayed and broken down. I am doing it in her best interest. And as for stables or trainers I know and trust that's hard as I just moved to the state. I do plan and forever will keep her until she is old and ready to go over the rainbow.
         
        04-29-2010, 03:32 PM
      #13
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    So you are restricting her cantering because of her age? Can you tell me why? Jumping I can see to a certain degree but I can not see how cantering a 5yo would be something to cause long term issues.
         
        04-29-2010, 03:40 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Because thier backs don't completely close till 6-7 yrs old. Her knees I am not even sure if they are closed but they should be with her being 5. You actually shouldnt back a horse until they are 5-6. Its like strapping a 4yr old child down with alot of weight and expecting it not to cause problems.
         
        04-29-2010, 03:43 PM
      #15
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    Then why is it OK for a rider to trot on him? I miss why you see a difference between a horse carrying a rider at a walk and trot to a horse carrying a rider at the canter when it comes to their joints being closed.

    Sorry, I really am trying to understand.
         
        04-29-2010, 03:43 PM
      #16
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueEyed paint    
    Because thier backs don't completely close till 6-7 yrs old. Her knees I am not even sure if they are closed but they should be with her being 5. You actually shouldnt back a horse until they are 5-6. Its like strapping a 4yr old child down with alot of weight and expecting it not to cause problems.
    With the severe restrictions and your unrealistic mindset - I would not bother trying to lease her. You will never find anyone to fit into your mold.
         
        04-29-2010, 04:00 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueEyed paint    
    She turns 6 in next year and that is when she is allowed to be cantered and jumped. I want no jumping period until then and light cantering once a week I will allow if I have to. Its safer for them I don't want a horse at 20 to be swayed and broken down.
    I was trotting and cantering my 4 y/o (he never did jump), and at 20 y/o he didn't have a smidge of a swayed back.

    Many people hold off on breaking a horse to saddle until they're 4 y/o, but I've never heard of not letting one canter or jump until they're 6.

    At 5 y/o I can see restricting her jumping to the lower levels, but there's no such thing as their backs 'closing'. Their knees do, but their backs are one long line of veterbrae; they're not going to compress.

    So let's see, you don't want anyone jumping or cantering her, she's only green broke so you expect someone to put their time, effort and money into getting her broke properly, you want 24/7 visitation rights, and you only want her trained by NH methods.

    Good luck finding anyone willing to put up with those ridiculous 'conditions'.

    There are plenty of already well trained animals out there for lease with none of those restrictions.
         
        04-29-2010, 04:08 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Well ya never know....there are plenty of suckers out there.

    There's a lady near me who "leases" out her horses. For a quite pricey fee, you get the privilege of grooming, hand-walking and TALKING to her horses. Absolutely no riding is allowed. And idiots actually take her up on this!
         
        04-30-2010, 07:06 AM
      #19
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    Originally Posted by Delfina    
    Well ya never know....there are plenty of suckers out there.

    There's a lady near me who "leases" out her horses. For a quite pricey fee, you get the privilege of grooming, hand-walking and TALKING to her horses. Absolutely no riding is allowed. And idiots actually take her up on this!
    That is a perfect example of "there is a sucker born every minute". Sigh!
         
        04-30-2010, 12:06 PM
      #20
    Foal
    I don't expect her back to close I said nothing of that. But simply her maturing more. Carrying a rider does not bother me as she handles that fine but she also had hip problems in the past when I had a trainer putting time on her for me. And I don't think she is ready for cantering as she gets really upset and confused. Now if someone that knows about training and is a trainer I will allow cantering and possible lower level jumping. But all the responses I have gotten are people that are wanting to gallop and run her hard and work her hard. And they don't know anything about horses.

    And would you want to lease out a horse and never be able to see it? How do you know the horse isnt being beaten? Starved? But the person isnt willing to let you see the horse. And then comes the time to get the horse. Can show you abandoned a horse because you never came out. Automatic horse turn over to that person. I doubt I will be out there 24/7 but I do want access to my mare at all times. Not to train or work but to check in on her and see her.


    Have you guys ever passionatly loved a horse as a it was your own kid? Or do you just see them to be thrown away when you are done? Let them go to someone and hope they may care for it?

    And yes I don't want her whipped all the time for doing bad. I don't want a huge shank bit in her mouth and her head yanked around. All her ground work is done she just needs time. All she needs is miles I could ride her with no problem.



    All I wanted was advice on leasing out so I don't loose my horse and if the ad was ok or needed changed. I didnt need critiqued on how I feel about an animal. Thank you kindly.
         

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