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        04-02-2013, 11:37 AM
      #31
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    Big horses are great but I have to agree with Saddlebag about being able to get on without help and needing to walk to find a suitable high place or object to stand on can be a pain. If you like the draft build then why not look at gypsy cobs/vanners? You don't have to have the long manes, tails and feather on them. They usually have great temperaments
    Everyone has different tastes in horses but none of them posted really screamed 'buy me' to me. The arab's really pretty but does look sort of short backed and long legged apart from the pasterns so might not be too comfortable to ride. If he's done Arabian show classes his odd hoof shape might be down to their way of letting the toes get really long to encourage a higher knee action - would likely come back into shape with some good farrier work
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        04-02-2013, 11:45 AM
      #32
    Yearling
    DHW... Beau is gorgeous AND adorable, all rolled into one!!

    In fact, I'll go one FURTHER. EVERY SINGLE HORSE you own is uniquely beautiful and all seem precious personality-wise! How very blessed you are!

    So my question for you is, why did you decide Beau is the one most similar to what I'm seeking? Is he an older (teenaged) gelding, trained English, that you do trails and endurance-type riding with, or is it another factor? Dying to hear!!

    Anyhow. I thoroughly enjoyed scoping out your pics. Must be pure Heaven at your house with all of those sweetie pies around 24/7!

    Still no word from my cl response, so I think I'll do what was recommended and post a response right to them ON CL, as no phone # provided...

    Off to get some rest soon...Yeay! I just completed my 7th of ten total shifts--2 weeks notice--only three night shifts remaining before my old job ends and beginning my new job...So scary (in a good way!) but SO EXCITING after five years with one hospital!!

    Again, wishing y'all a stellar day!! B2H
         
        04-02-2013, 11:48 AM
      #33
    Trained
    I posted the paint gelding (the one with the little boy riding him). What questions did you have about his conformation?

    As for English training...all horses know how to direct rein and, if they're ranch horses, know how to move off leg pressure. Those are the two main factors in English riding. All horses know how to direct rein because that is how they all start. They don't just automatically know how to neck rein. They may be a tad rusty at it, but it should only take your trainer a few rides to refresh their memory.

    As far as jumps go...any horse can putz over small jumps on the trail with little to no training. Even Aires has jumped a small downed tree before, and he's green as grass (truth be told, it was short enough for him to walk over, but he decided it was high enough that it warranted a bunny hop).
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        04-02-2013, 11:57 AM
      #34
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    Big horses are great but I have to agree with Saddlebag about being able to get on without help and needing to walk to find a suitable high place or object to stand on can be a pain. If you like the draft build then why not look at gypsy cobs/vanners? You don't have to have the long manes, tails and feather on them. They usually have great temperaments
    Everyone has different tastes in horses but none of them posted really screamed 'buy me' to me. The arab's really pretty but does look sort of short backed and long legged apart from the pasterns so might not be too comfortable to ride. If he's done Arabian show classes his odd hoof shape might be down to their way of letting the toes get really long to encourage a higher knee action - would likely come back into shape with some good farrier work
    Great overall advice Jaydee (as usual!) & definitely some new factors to consider! Gypsy Vanners are. Stunning, but you know what? I honestly do not believe I've ever seen ONE at any barn in Tucson EVER! That is so odd, and probably why I didn't even consider the breed!!

    I am feeling the "none of these horses screaming buy me" thing, as well... could just be stress over all the job change decisions lately making more decisions feel overwhelming... at the same time, I feel that as soon as I'm done with orientation, I want to really hit this hard, and not allow myself to "wuss out" & not buy (or at LEAST find a lease to purchase... something... so I don't allow my time to keep slipping by, you know?)...

    Thank you for your input. As always, it's much appreciated!! Best to you!!

    B2H. :0)
         
        04-02-2013, 12:17 PM
      #35
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum    
    I posted the paint gelding (the one with the little boy riding him). What questions did you have about his conformation?

    As for English training...all horses know how to direct rein and, if they're ranch horses, know how to move off leg pressure. Those are the two main factors in English riding. All horses know how to direct rein because that is how they all start. They don't just automatically know how to neck rein. They may be a tad rusty at it, but it should only take your trainer a few rides to refresh their memory.

    As far as jumps go...any horse can putz over small jumps on the trail with little to no training. Even Aires has jumped a small downed tree before, and he's green as grass (truth be told, it was short enough for him to walk over, but he decided it was high enough that it warranted a bunny hop).
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    I'm sorry, Aires! I didn't keep very good track of who posted what! Didn't mean to slight you... he is perfect as I see the little bit stated, and looking at him...I did have a conformation question about him and now I am soo tired, I truly cannot recall. I promise to go back and look again when I get up mid-day, if it can wait? I'm drowsing out as I type!!

    Thank you for his posting... and thank you for addressing the English training issue! That helps a LOT, understanding such. He's quite awesome, truly!!

    OK Lady I will write after rechecking later into the day, I do sincerely appreciate all of your help...be well & smile! :0)
         
        04-02-2013, 12:28 PM
      #36
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    When you get your breath back!!!!............................
    I did a few searches for gypsy cobs/vanners where you are and none came up at all.
    Draftyaires horse (Aires) would be a great compromise in type though - the draft cross with a lighter breed if you could find one you liked
    I spent months trying different breeds and when the dealer led Looby out she was really not at all what I was looking for and had already boomeranged back to him after going out on trial a few times and displayed her 'attitude'. Even my Vet said I was mad to consider her and still says she would have been on someone's dinner plate if we hadn't given her a chance but I just looked at her and thought 'this is my horse' and I have no regrets that I went with that instinct
    Your horse is out there somewhere.
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        04-02-2013, 12:49 PM
      #37
    Trained
    No slight perceived! Just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was stepping on smrobs' toes by answering.
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        04-02-2013, 01:02 PM
      #38
    Trained
    I JUST talked to a 50yo woman who wants a horse, lives on rural 10 acres, grows alfalfa and needs a good baby sitter, so I'll give YOU the same advice.
    You NEED a trustworthy horsey friend to help you shop.
    The market is in the toilet, and they are lots of good horses out there and very few buyers. It's a BUYER's market, so be VERY PICKY!!!
    Agreed--no pics of under saddle, it's not worth the phone call or the trip.
    The price of a good horse won't be super cheap, but right now it's all over the place.
    My advice? Look for your first safe horse with the care you would take looking for a marriage partner, and REALLY mean it.
    Look for best conformation possible, but temperament and good training trumps a small conformation fault. Still, people sell their horses that keep going lame.
    I would look for a horse ~10-15yo, with a show history. That way, your new horse will trailer well, be good with their feet and shots, and of course, be quiet being tacked and ridden. Spooky is NEVER acceptable for a novice rider. Horses are just TOOOOOO big and heavy to be unrealiable.
    You never know when and where you'll find him, your gelding--yes, avoid mares--I fell into my great mare in 2008, but I've owned 7 mares/35 horses in my lifetime, and only 2 were good tempered.
    FINALLY, take your time. You won't miss out on good riding. All you will avoid is a trip to the E.R. Bc of purchasing the wrong animal.
    I should add that "Corporal" (1982-2009, RIP) was an Arabian. Loved him, but Arabs are the Border Collies of the horse world.
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        04-02-2013, 01:05 PM
      #39
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    When you get your breath back!!!!............................
    I did a few searches for gypsy cobs/vanners where you are and none came up at all.
    Draftyaires horse (Aires) would be a great compromise in type though - the draft cross with a lighter breed if you could find one you liked
    I spent months trying different breeds and when the dealer led Looby out she was really not at all what I was looking for and had already boomeranged back to him after going out on trial a few times and displayed her 'attitude'. Even my Vet said I was mad to consider her and still says she would have been on someone's dinner plate if we hadn't given her a chance but I just looked at her and thought 'this is my horse' and I have no regrets that I went with that instinct
    Your horse is out there somewhere.
    Unfortunately, GOOD draft crosses with any decent amount of training are few and far between in Arizona. The ones you do find are either young and barely handled (like Aires was when I got him) or older and green as grass. Sometimes you'll even find one that's older and barely handled. We live in a state where even pure drafts are relatively rare and stock horses are king.

    That being said, I agree that a good draft cross would be ideal for B2H.
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        04-02-2013, 01:24 PM
      #40
    Showing
    When you find a horse to try out, once you get a feel of it, see how far it will ride away from home. If it's fine, come back half way and head out again. This will tell you how good it is about leaving home. A lot of buyers don't do this and are surprised that the horse will go just so far and kick up a stink.
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