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        04-02-2013, 07:54 PM
    Omgosh... this is the LAST time I will check HF when I briefly wake up to pee, Haha,!!

    You guys are just SO GREAT, excellent advice/info one & all!

    Drafty... I am truly, TRULY IN LOVE AT FIRST READ/SIGHT WITH BUZZ. I don't know but I have a FEELING about him. I am SIMPLY TAKEN. And thank goodness DH is on his way home from work or I'd probably miss out on about four hours of MUCH NEEDED SLEEP and watch his video NOW rather than my "get up" time of 7pm, and start sending his info to Holly (my trainer) TO ARRANGE a visit time she's free for before even calling Buzz's mom!!!

    I must sleep (am exhausted!) but feel HIGH AND GIDDY ABOUT BUZZ...I know, I MUST remain level headed (ESPECIALLY if DH sees me going wacko, he'll want to veto (saying if I'm already this excited, I'll never stay rational and be objective!)...& he'd BE TOTALLY RIGHT,

    SO...gonna go back to bed. Will calmly (he he) look at all that's been sent when I wake up (which ALSO HAS THE ADDED BONUS of not allowing me to call anyone until tomorrow!) and get my head back on straight!

    I am being "sort of" silly, but also semi-serious, and I do know this is a process which requires a very level head, a LOT OF THOUGHTFUL reality checks and no "irrational excitement". Exactly what will come with a FULL DAY of sleep!

    I'll check back this evening y'all. Thank you ALL again!!! :0)
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        04-02-2013, 08:22 PM
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    I've been following this thread - I love your "prospect" threads, B2H! They're so adorable, educational, and just all around make me really excited for you! :)

    Anyway, in following this thread, I have a few thoughts:

    First, I really love that paint gelding Drafty posted. I used to work at a summer camp with horses and kids, and that paint guy just has the look of a really tolerant horse. The kind I would have loved to work with on a daily basis. So I'm a bit biased!
    I love how his legs are really solid and big boned for his height. One sees far too many QH/Paint-types with these little spindly legs that look like they're going to break with the slightest exertion! Haha

    Then, there's Buzz. He looks like a real sweetie...BUT. This, again, is totally a personal opinion+biased worldview from me, but he -in the way he's built- really reminds me of the horses we would get in at camp who were a struggle to keep sound on a daily basis in very light work. That does not mean, AT ALL, that Buzz is going to be a struggle to keep sound, but again, he has that really straight "spindly" legged QH-y thing going on that scares me for over the long term. That's just my opinion and as we all know, horses are continual surprises in how they can overcome/compensate for physical weaknesses!

    My other thought about those two horses in particular is that, in terms of more english-y events, the Paint appears to really be built uphill (withers higher than his butt) while Buzz appears to be built significantly downhill (withers lower than butt - very common amongst the stock breeds). An uphill build is more likely to be paired with a horse that will be easier to collect/has a natural balance about his movements and may have an easier time jumping (easier for him to lift up that front end to get over a jump) while a more downhill horse is more likely to have difficulty getting and staying somewhat collected, etc. For english-type riding, you'll probably want a horse that's level or uphill, just to make english riding easier on both of you from a collection/jumping stand-point.
    That all being said, my own mare is built VERY downhill (she's 14.1hh in front and 14.3hh in the back! A pony in front and a horse in the back, hahaha) but her hind end angles are such that she can compensate for her downhillness and she actually moves very "uphill" and is naturally "collected". Having a hind end that can compensate for being downhill is not very common (it's called "the golden triangle" - basically the coup, point of hip and...that other one, are all equilateral to each other) but it's not impossible, for sure!

    Anyway, those are my somewhat scattered thoughts. Hopefully that all makes sense!
    And for sure, the horse that's right for you is going to be the one you enjoy working with the most, whether or not his conformation makes things easier or harder for you two. The most fun is not always the easiest fun, I certainly know about that! :)
        04-02-2013, 08:33 PM
    I'll give you my first impressions of Buzz's video.

    Pros- Beautiful ground manners. Quiet in the bridle (no chomping, tossing, pulling, etc). Nice transitions. Willing.

    Cons- They're demonstrating his WP gaits and, to be quite honest, they appear forced. He's got too much knee/leg action for a WP horse, but would probably make a cute hunt seat horse. However, other than being somewhat heavy on the forehand (I think from the forced WP gaits), there aren't any other cons.
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        04-03-2013, 02:02 AM
    Well, due to only like, six minutes of sleep today (non-HF-related), *we have mice, apparently, and, apparently, they are coming from the neighboring townhouse, whose owners APPARENTLY USED POISON, RATHER THAN TRAPS, so now, SOMEWHERE in our living room, we have a DEAD MOUSE, which since 4pm has begun to DECOMPOSE... Oh yay. This means we will be tearing everything apart as the smell grows worse by the hour! Yippee!, I HAVEN'T WATCHED THE VIDEO yet...but FULLY intend to @ work and cannot WAIT! :0)

    Wallaby, thank you for following and for your comments, they're great, loved them!

    Drafty, thank you for watching the video and for now sending me BOTH THE AWESOME paint horse the other day, and. The SECOND AWESOME paint horse!! ;0) I have some REALLY COOL stuff to share with y'all tonight, so will write more later!! Thanks guys, for your honest evals of "spotted paint hose", & of Buzz! ;0)
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        04-03-2013, 06:25 AM
    Ready for a laugh? Here goes...I know SO LITTLE about WP/western riding in general (& PLEASE, NO ONE be the least bit offended by my next comments, OK? They merely reflect MY ignorance of the discipline!)...that when I got to the portion of the YT video where the girl has finished showing him in hand for the camera and begins riding him, my heart SANK...

    I though, "OMGosh! He's lame or off on his hind somewhere!!" THEN it dawned on me that I had seen the lesson horse I've ridden a bit (she is trained in WP primarily but does a fine job with English pleasure as well)"Fancy", ridden by her owner in WP style, and that day, I'd asked Holly, "Is Fancy OK? She looks like she's limping!"

    Holly laughed and did explain the "rocking horse" type of gaits, and the VERY low slung head position to me as desirable traits in the WP world! She then showed me how Fancy carries herself when under saddle ridden English, and she's like a whole different horse!

    So I just took 30" & watched a bunch of videos of WP champions, and they ALL LOOKED MUCH LIKE BUZZ!

    Ahhh. So. I'd definitely HAVE to see him ridden both English and then just running around at liberty to get a clear picture of how he moves! Anyhow, going to go look at some other videos now. I'll be baaack! Haha! :0)
        04-03-2013, 10:45 AM
    He will most likely move similar, tho not as extreme.
    But keep in mind what was said already....heavy on the forehand, downhill.
    There are horses who can do decent WP and are still built better and go forward. You want to ride mostly English, hop over a log or two and want to go LD, get a horse who can do that easily.
    You should be able to find a nice, well trained Arabian, especially in your area( I've seen quite a few on CL) in you price range. Or a half Arabian, maybe crossed with QH ( I'm totally biased here lol). In fact, I know of a HA breeder here in Cali, Bakersfield area, who has super nice prospects, Arab crosses with warmblood. If this would be something for you.
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        04-03-2013, 11:23 AM
    Aa Adam Bey- Trail and Arena Horse

    Straight Egyptian Arabian/morgan Gelding

    5yr old Percheron/Qh cross plus tack
    I know, too young AND mare

    The chestnut gelding has been posted again yesterday, did you see? I don't think your email got there.....
        04-03-2013, 11:44 AM
    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    Aa Adam Bey- Trail and Arena Horse

    Straight Egyptian Arabian/morgan Gelding

    5yr old Percheron/Qh cross plus tack
    I know, too young AND mare

    The chestnut gelding has been posted again yesterday, did you see? I don't think your email got there.....
    I honestly haven't checked again. I will go ahead and put my inquiry up on CL itself (about him, that is!)...Thanks, DHW!
        04-03-2013, 11:50 AM
    They seem to be very eager to sell him...price is reduced
    Doesn't mean he's a bad horse. Could be he's boarded and owners have financial problems. Or lost interest and just want him gone.
    That's how I got most of my horses....emergencies.
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        04-03-2013, 12:15 PM
    The problem I have with the second two horses (for B2H) is that they're both green. The Arab/Morgan gelding's owners even say that he needs an experienced rider because he gets nervous and has only been on the trail "several times." Depending on her personality, the Percheron/QH mare could be quiet/willing enough, but again, she's green.

    I was under the impression that B2H was looking for something beginner-friendly and more "push button"...which a green horse would not be.
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