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post #11 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 08:21 AM
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I see a very very well worded advert and professional video. Take away all the hot air, and he's a thirteen year old who has done some dressage, jumping, cattle-stuff, trail rides plus lots of trail ride obstacle training and mounted shooting.

They recommend him for endurance or trail riding, with a caveat to avoid speed events.

So I suspect he is:

A good all round adults horse, but one that doesn't do 'standing and chatting'

A horse who has with had a physical or mental problem at speed events

Not perfect for showing, possibly because it winds him up, who knows

They are clearly professional horse sellers, and they produce their horses well to make money. All credit to them. I don't think they will hesitate to sell so you if a) you have the money and b) you approach the sale with the thought and consideration you have demonstrated in this question.

I have no idea what the price is like where you are. When you started looking for a horse, and BEFORE you saw this advert, what were you planning on doing with your new horse?

If he fits that requirement, and if the price isn't ridiculously more than the market, then go for it.

On the negative side... I will say that it's a lot of money for a thirteen year old trail horse, however safe he may be.

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post #12 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
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EXCELLENT comments, one and all, much appreciated. I am about to give report and sign out to go home, but I will comment briefly on my immediate thoughts regarding the comments made and questions asked...once I have slept some, I'll repost with any additional thoughts and likely more "coherent", less sleep-deprived-sounding input!

I would say, on average, most horses in my area with NOTHING close to what this boy has going for him to offer, (even in the worst possible case-scenario--such as the possibility that this horse may demonstrate traits which I, being an advanced beginner, cannot see and thus would make him LESS desirable than I had originally thought) are selling for about $1000-$5,500. These are horses which are honestly either unwell significantly on some level, or, are far too advanced (Read: Green) for my abilities. If you recall, I posted a CL horse recently and am looking at getting in touch with his owner via phone (She didn't contact me from my email message, so it may have gotten lost, thus, I am trying again)...He was the least expensive I've seen with the greatest possibility of not being utterly green, and he is 7, but, smrobs noted possibly a clubbed hoof on the R front, and there truly is NOTHING listed in his ad to tell me HOW "not totally green" he could be.

Then, when we start moving into the area of what I would need (a very bombproof, warm, loving-type horse that isn't going to challenge the heck out of me, as I'm looking to this horse to be my main source of recreation...I do not have a lot of free time, but I have enough for one horse, (or two if my husband and I each get one), and to spend that free time every day with horse/horses seeking relaxation; SOME challenge is inherent, but not CONSTANT stress...I get waaay too much of that at work, and everywhere else!...

Anyhow,the way it goes around here horse-shopping-wise as well as price wise, it seems one either looks for a very long time (which I absolutely plan and intend to have/want to do) and happens to "fall" into a very inexpensive (under $1000) but lovely schoolmaster-horse-type-of-situation, with perhaps a few extra years (later teens) on him/her, but soooo great in every other way, OR, gets roped into paying WAY upwards of $15k and hasn't got much more going for him/her...

It's odd, because I fall into a weird place. I DO want a horse whom I can do some arena work with, but actually prefer riding out in the open, and there are so many places to do that here... I do not plan to show, but very much want to consider being able to do something like I described (Search/Rescue Volunteering, Endurance training with my husband, that sort of thing...just some way to push my/our-selves and give something back, all the while being OUTSIDE, being with a loving horse (I'm not talking glitter farts and butterflies at ALL), but not a horse with whom I have to feel that he or she cannot stand me inherently, or that I find them so difficult that I cannot form any sort of "bond" whatsoever....

Okay, gotta run! Thanks again, more to come!!

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post #13 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:06 AM
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Nice horse, not registered, grossly overpriced (IMO). As far as being hesitant to approach them to buy for fear you won't pass muster? They are not adopting out a child, they are selling a horse. If you have $9500 they will let you have him in a hot minute. I am an older rider & have been happily trail riding on my assorted herd, the most expensive costing me a whopping $1500. My suggestion would be to find an experienced horse person to look at horses with you. Do NOT depend on sellers to guide you....I'm not saying they are dishonest, but their focus is selling a horse, yours is finding a lifetime companion.
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post #14 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:29 AM
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I wouldn't take him if you gave him to me.. If you get him in an arena, he'll be a prancy, head tossing mess. And that isn't 9500 dollar material. Wy don't you try looking into a real ranch, not someone with five acres, a round pen, and a western saddle. I can't stand when people like that call themselves ranchers. Anyways, take Macerick for instance. We were in a partnership with Rocky Mountain Outfitters on this horse. And we were very happy when we got 5000 for him. And this horse you could ride in an arena without being a lathered mess. The horse market is not conducive to 9500 grade geldings with quirks..

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post #15 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:30 AM
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Obviously they know nothing about endurance, probably using the thought, Well he is uncontrollable and you constantly gotta fight and hold him back so he must be good for endurance. I run into that alot.
Only thing you really mentioned was endurance. Something that horse is definitely not suited for. Especially in Arizona, no how no way.
Like has been mentioned I see a well done ful of fluff video, a horse fighting the bit, probably a bit of control issues on the trails, a pretty typical 1500 to 2000 dollar dime a dozen paint.
Your whole OP seemed like an additional advertisement thinking the horse can walk on water. You need to really sit down and focus on what you want and what you want to accomplish, I can put you on some decent trail/ endurance horses in your neck of the woods for a lot less.
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post #16 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:36 AM
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Shoot joe-we can find one here and SHIP it for a whole lot less!

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post #17 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:51 AM
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The horse is apparently a Quarab, unregistered, according to the pedigree they put up for him.
Not to mention he's already sold...
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post #18 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 09:55 AM
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Love the horse. Hate the rider. Way over priced for a horse that (to me) doesn't look like he's had a ton of experience. I mean we've got a 7-8yr old $600.00 Quarter Horse(not Reg. though) that probably does better on the spook proofing then he does, and still has good confo. with some get up and go...Of course he's chestnut in color, which some people don't like but he's does have some flash (blaze & three white socks)

To me the horse would loosen up if you gave him the chance, he doesn't look bad in any way (temperament wise)...But maybe more like $1500-2500ish range.
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post #19 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 10:07 AM
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didnt look at pedigree just at the unregistered paint part.
Hey we had that half Esquire +++ something or other advertised in AZ recently at about $1000 , jump on that one if your looking for a CTR, cowboy or midpack endurance ride. spend another 1000 on trainers and lessons. You'd probably have a good one, ANd know how to ride.
Not sayin the paint is a bad horse. Just hugely over priced and over hyped by both the OP and the seller. Was that add on Dream horse ? For some reason people post insane prices on horses their, maybe its frequented by people who have more moeny than brains so sellers get lucky., I know for a fact their are arabians on there for 3 and 4 times the price I see the same horse advertised on my page or other for sale sights. While dream horse is an OK webpage, dont be afraid to offer 2k on one advertised at 10 if it is only a 2k horse and you like it. All they can do is say no.
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post #20 of 47 Old 02-27-2013, 10:18 AM
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For the money, I probably would pay these folks a visit. I liked this mare a lot until towards the end the rider got in her face. Why do they do that?

OP-you can see a huge difference in the demeanor of this horse compared to the one you posted, IMO.

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