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post #41 of 47 Old 03-16-2013, 02:28 PM
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In looking at their website, I would not deal with them period.

Just all over the place, and all the silly riding shots would warn me off too.
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post #42 of 47 Old 03-16-2013, 03:39 PM
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OP-This horse is overpriced for AZ, and I don't see anything special about him that warrants the costs.
When I was looking for my 1st horse, I browsed the internet constantly looking for the perfect safe horse. So I know what you are going through.
I second taking along an experienced horse person with you when you are looking.
I know it's time consuming, but you need to actually go out and look at the horses you are interested in and ride them. You'll figure out pretty quick what you want and what you don't want.
I also know there are a few traders in AZ who guarantee their horses are bombproof. When I see bombproof it always makes me skeptical, because really there is no such thing.

So in lies the madness, the pursuit of the impossible in the face of the complete assurance that you will fail, and yet still you chase.
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post #43 of 47 Old 03-16-2013, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, I hear you. I'm really seeing now why I was so DAZZLED by their advertisement.

What I think really got me, as I believe I may have mentioned, though I'm not sure; was how "bombproof" he seemed...I rarely have, if ever, in "real life"seen a horse so unphased by that degree of stimuli.

Not being a western rider, and having had so little exposure to what good vs. bad western riding looks like, including what improper use of a curb bit, etc...looks like, until it was pointed out to me, really showed me where my education is highly lacking (which is so good to know!!). Not that I had planned to ride him western, as they wrote he was trained for both English and western pleasure riding... But if I'd known to pay more attention to how he was being ridden, despite that it was western, I would probably have been less taken with his training, as that was likely his trainer riding him that way, and working with him as she was; and I'd have questioned why she was riding him in the manner which she was!

Of course in theory, I know contact of that sort is reserved only for snaffles and other non-leverage, broken bits, but if all one sees throughout one's life is people riding with bits appropriate for that degree of contact; such looks "natural", upon initial view, even in a curb-(one with my lack of experience, I should say)!

I honestly didn't notice how "in his mouth" the rider was, and how tense he looked. Also, the reining issue. I wasn't really sure what proper western reining should look like, so, the improprieties there were lost on me (until, of course, you fine folks pointed it all out!) :0)

Finally, though yes, that pricetag was high. However, in my head, I simply "assumed", erroneously, (but again, due to my total lack of exposure to horses which APPEARED to be so bombproof), that such gifts come at a high price!

I kept thinking, "My gosh, if I invest significant money into this horse, well, it will certainly be worth it, as obviously unless I do so, I'll not be able to own a horse that is so equipped to handle nearly anything put in our path." Since I am no trainer, for certain (& even having a wonderful trainer!) the idea that I could purchase a horse that was ALREADY utterly ready for anything...well, it left me feeling like the added cost was well worth it!

It wasn't until everyone began telling me that middle-aged, bombproof horses which aren't necessarily "show quality" (I.e. Trained in all disciplines, GORGEOUS, etc...), since none of that is even really ON MY LIST, let alone high up on my list; was much more obtainable than I'd thought & @ a lower price, well, that changed my thinking significantly!

Now, I'm going to continue looking at EVERYTHING...continue learning, and hoping that the right horse for me is out there someplace! However, as I look, I will be FAR MORE PREPARED to truly look at everything presented before I become totally "taken" by what seems to be a nice package, until you begin to peel away the layers...I hope you guys will continue to help me with peeling away the layers from time to time?
I also hope you guys realize how utterly invaluable your help has been, and that I do not take such lightly. Thank you.

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post #44 of 47 Old 03-16-2013, 03:54 PM
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Back2Horseback, I'm in northern Arizona. If you want, I can keep an eye out up here for something suitable. I can even help you haul one down to you (give me an "excuse" to visit my son in Tucson).

I also have a friend in Phoenix with a REALLY nice 8-9yo OTTB gelding who is just a dream to work with. I can see if he's still available, if you'd like. I helped retrain this horse, so I know him inside and out. Heck, if I could afford another horse right now, he'd already be up here with me.
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post #45 of 47 Old 03-16-2013, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Flytobecat, I think we were both posting at the same time! :0)

I wanted to mention that I use "bombproof" simply to describe a horse which has experienced it all, been there, done that, and is going to be an enjoyable companion for me, rather than a constant struggle...

And, I'm absolutely thrilled to actually go and, along with my trainer, "weed out" the good vs. the bad. However, in this early stage, my goal is to prevent wasting seller's/my/my trainer's time by doing a LOT of away viewing first...being completely certain on what exactly I want and don't want; educating myself on what to look for based upon what is important to me!

Then, a bit down the road (OR, perhaps sooner, IF I HAPPEN to come across an amazing horse otherwise that I don't want to risk waiting on at all!), I'll ask my trainer to come with me and we will go on a horse trial trip! :0)

Thank you for your input...I just wanted to clarify a few things quickly! Best to you!! B2H

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I have the most perfect horse for you, too bad I live in NC.
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post #47 of 47 Old 03-23-2013, 07:52 AM Thread Starter
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Nherridge, awe, thanks for thinking of me! Kinda along those lines, but not totally-in relation to having the perfect horse, just the wrong part of the country, this makes me think of this very interesting email I recently received stick with me...point is made at the end.

I've recently been contacted by a gentleman through CL, no less, who had seen my ad up from months ago, literally, when I was looking to lease...

He wrote to me to notify me of a website called "" I believe (I can't flip pages yet to put up the exact website, but if ANYONE wants it, I'll start a new thread with the site as the title...I think lots of people might love such a thing!)

ANYHOW! I've searched the lease a horse site in a VERY PRELIMINARY fashion, as I mentioned, lately my entire life has been nothing but resumes, cover letters, interviews, and LOTS OF PRAYING (which yesterday morning finally paid off, YAY!!!) So I can't say much about the site EXCEPT it appears to have tons of leases available (& really super looking horses of all disciplines), but, these are mainly all in the Midwest and on the East please let me know if y'all think I should put up a thread about such or if this is a site everyone already knows about...

This ties into the "great horse, wrong state" concept in that you can search by zip code for leases, and it's free to search as well as to post your potential lease! Again, I noticed lots of great seeming horses, just not ONE horse, let alone a great horse, in my essential area.

Now, if this was a "buying" website that would be irrelevant, as many horses were listed anyplace from 50 to 150 miles from me...however, leases often want the horse, quite understandably, to remain on their property, thus, a great horse 75 miles away isn't gonna cut it!

So let me know if you guys think folks don't already know about this and I'll start a thread! (Or, maybe, I'll be SUPER WILD & crazy and just start one with NO initial FEEDBACK whatsoever! Hahaha--maniacal laughter)...

Ugh. I think job searching has irreparably damaged my brain!

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