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post #1 of 11 Old 10-16-2013, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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Fancy 4 yo AWS Gelding - What is he worth?

Hello everyone,
I currently have my 4 y.o. American Warmblood listed for $10k (neg).
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-16-2013, 05:38 PM
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Training? Pictures? Bloodlines? History?

Saying you have a 4 y.o. Warmblood tells no one anything that can make them guess at his worth.
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Sorry, I didn't mean for that to post- had to refresh my page because it timed out and for some reason it went through like that.
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post #4 of 11 Old 10-16-2013, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
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Westley

As mentioned above, Westley is a 4 y.o. 16hh American Warmblood (Shire x Quarter Horse) gelding. Currently in dressage training, has been lightly started over fences and has free-jumped 3' with scope. He has a great mind, brave and very smart, I've never seen him spook at anything. Three gorgeous uphill & expressive gaits that are very smooth and easy to ride. Still green, as he's only 4, but learns very quickly.

He was classically started, and now I have him with a sales dressage trainer as I'm away at college. Super responsive to seat and weight aids, and still prefers to be ridden that way. Comes beautifully into the bridle with just a light contact and lifting him up with your seat. Pictures and videos below are of him with his current trainer. He will go very far with the right person, I can easily see him being competitive at 3rd level with a few years.

So I'd love to get some opinions on what you all think he's worth now. I'm also considering the possibility of keeping him in training through the winter (likely at a different barn) and selling him in the spring, and I'd like to get an idea of what you think he may be worth 6 months from now.






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In my area (CO) $10,000 would be WAY overpriced. Around here maybe $2500-$3500. If he was a full warmblood from a more respected registry with a good pedigree he would be more like $6500-$10,000, but AWB don't fetch nearly those prices, despite ability.
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Not to be mean or rude......I have an AWB too....he is also known as a draft cross. AWB is an attempt (IMO) to get more $$ for a cross.

He is beautiful....but that is only worth so much. I would agree with not more than $5K. Perhaps a little more in the MD/VA area.....they love their Draft X's.....but he has really done nothing to prove himself yet. Is he from a proven sire or dam? The breeder I got mine from gets more for her crosses because she spent the time making my guys brother into a PROVEN sporthorse. He won all over at dressage, HT, and was whip with the local hunt. Therefore, his babies are worth more.

You might want to start looking into his lineage, if you can.
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He would probably go for $6,000-$8,000 where I live.
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Up here you wouldn't get near 10K for him. Sure he's gorgeous, but the horse market just isn't that great. You don't see 10K horses unless they're CRAZY worthy of the price tag. Overworthy, really. And TBH, I agree with franknbeans - American Warmblood is nothing more than a catch word to get more money for the horse. I see pure Dressage Warmbloods with years of professional training go for around 5-6K.

I look around me for horses (I'm not in the market, but who doesn't window shop?) and I do occasionally see warmbloods 10K and higher. And then I see them the next week. And then the next month. And then they get relisted... and then the price drops. You could get probably 6K for him where I'm at.

...And I'm sorry if that sounded totally rude. Just trying to give you an idea of what's going on around here. No horse sells for top dollar, and at least near me there are almost more draft crosses being sold than anything!
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post #9 of 11 Old 10-18-2013, 10:38 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the honest feedback everybody, guess it's what I asked for. That said, I've had lots of people tell me to raise his price, lol. Matter of fact, I'm thinking of placing him with a consignment trainer (who sells horses in an avg. Of 60 days & has sold 34 this year), and she said, having not met him, she'd list him for $15k, and maybe more once she's gotten a chance to evaluate him in person.

Btw, the only reason I refer to him as an American Warmblood instead of just a Draft cross is that he's been inspected. AWS takes so many crosses in their registry that it's basically meaningless just to say they're registered, except it's a good way to track actual DOB. But he's been inspected by the AWS and ranked Red preferred, eligible for branding, etc.
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Btw, as far as not having done anything to prove himself- he's 4. Recently 4. With a horse of that age you have to talk in potential, not current accomplishments. If he'd already "accomplished" things, he'd have been used way too much before he was finished growing up. 4 y/o's are supposed to be green, and somebody with a good eye will snap them up for the potential they can see. When this horse has those accomplishments under his belt, he's going to be worth twice what he is now.
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