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post #1 of 11 Old 05-08-2009, 10:56 PM Thread Starter
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I don't know if this belongs here or not, but this seemed like the best place for a thread like this.

I live in Texas. Obviously, 99% of people here ride western. I'm from Maryland, and I naturally ride english. There's a lady at my barn who is selling a foxhunter for $2,000. He's a very handsome bay warmblood (I think he's a Clyde/TB cross, but I'm not 100% sure). He's at least 16.3, if not 17hh. I don't know anything else about him, but if I ever see his owner I'll talk to her about him. I found out from somebody else that the horse was for sale; I haven't seen the lady in like 2 months.

If the horse is as good as I think he is, I think I could sell him for a lot more than that back in Maryland. I was looking on equine.com for geldings around his size, and the cheapest one was $4,000. Even if I just sold him for that much, it would still be a free trip home for me.

Obviously, I'd need to ride the horse and talk to the owner to find out more about him before I even think about actually buying him, but what do you guys think of this plan? I know a lady in Maryland who has land and horses, and I'm sure she wouldn't mind helping me sell him in exchange for a percentage of his sale price. She's doing something like that, where she buy horses from auctions and sells them after working with them for a little while, so I don't see why she couldn't help.

I also have a friend with a trailer who's itching to go on a road trip, and between the 2 of us, we know people along the way that we can stay with for free. We might even be able to find someone who needs a horse shipped, and we could make a little money doing that, too.

I'm thinking about asking the lady if I can take her horse to a small show in the area to see how the horse does. Is that something that people usually ask when they're considering buying a horse? I figure it would be good exposure for her horse, even if I don't buy it.

For reference, here are some 16.3+hh geldings for sale in Maryland:
Outstanding dressage prospect, solid temperament, ready to win for you! | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Gorgeous 2001 bay 17.2+h Hanoverian Gelding Hunters & Equitation | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Uncomplicated 2nd lvl dressage schoolmaster | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Large, Athletic, and Amazing Ability!! | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Beautiful and Proven HUS Gelding for Sale - Price Reduced! | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Versitile and Gentle TB Gelding | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Quiet, well broke, easy Appendix gelding- priced for quick sale | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Quiet, well broke, easy Appendix gelding- priced for quick sale | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Eye catching 6-year-old chestnut with chrome Hanoverian gelding by Lehnsritter/Wigwam | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
Striking black Hanoverian gelding, ready for a partner in any discipline | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
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There's a lady at my barn who is selling a foxhunter for $2,000. He's a very handsome bay warmblood (I think he's a Clyde/TB cross, but I'm not 100% sure).
A draft cross is not a Warmblood. You can't really compare the prices of draft crosses and Warmbloods. I'm afraid you might get stuck with a horse you don't want.

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A draft cross is not a Warmblood. You can't really compare the prices of draft crosses and Warmbloods. I'm afraid you might get stuck with a horse you don't want.
I said I think he's a Clyde/TB cross. He's not drafty at all, but he's big, bay, and has a huge girth. And I don't care what he is, as long as he can perform.
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I said I think he's a Clyde/TB cross. He's not drafty at all, but he's big, bay, and has a huge girth. And I don't care what he is, as long as he can perform.
Just remember that if you do get him to flip put down his suspected breeding but do not put WB as that would be misleading.
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I said I think he's a Clyde/TB cross. He's not drafty at all, but he's big, bay, and has a huge girth. And I don't care what he is, as long as he can perform.
Yes, but a Clyde/TB cross does not a Warmblood make.

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Yes, but a Clyde/TB cross does not a Warmblood make.
In my "neck of the woods" lol (small town *Kootenays BC,Canada) that is what we lovingly call a "REDNECK WARMBLOOD" LOL *NO OFFENSE INTENDED I OWN A FINE REDNECK WARMBLOOD MYSELF!!!

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Just remember that if you do get him to flip put down his suspected breeding but do not put WB as that would be misleading.
I would find out his history before I bought him. I haven't even talked to his owner yet.
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Yes, but a Clyde/TB cross does not a Warmblood make.
From what I understand, a warmblood is a certain style of horse, and breeding doesn't matter as long as the horse fits the description.
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Clyde/TB crosses do not sell for much in my neck of the woods. They stay at about the same monetary value because people prefer warmbloods to draft crosses, so chances are you won't end up making much money - in my experience anyways.

Just a couple of things:
- Remember to compare like horses - a horse can be 16.3hh and utter garbage or 16.3hh and spectacular, just going off height alone won't give you an accurate represenataion of what you could expect from the horse - other factors include, but are not limited to, conformation, breeding, training, show experience, temperment, sex, etc etc.
For example, this Clyde/TB cross will not ever be comparable to the QH Hunter Under Saddle horse; they are completely different types of horses - you will not see a Clyde cross winning HUS anytime soon.
- A draft cross with a TB is not a warmblood; warmbloods are set breeds now, they are not a "type." I see this mislabeling happen quite frequently. Hanoverians, Holsteiners, Dutch Warmbloods - these are just a few examples of the warmbloods that are breeds out there. Any draft crossed with a TB will not give you a warmblood :)

Best of luck in your decision! I do not intend for this to come across as mean, just informative :)


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I live in MD and the horses aren't moving around here. So I don't know if you will be able to sell this horse as quickly as you think you would.

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