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    07-28-2011, 07:39 PM
Question How Much for a COPD Horse with good training?

So I'm looking to sell my 13 year old gelding, a 17" Irish Draught gelding. He's sooo lovely and an excellent jumper, but unfortunately has COPD. I've gone through several different meds with him with varying degrees of sucess, however, I think if I found a potential buyer who was willing to dedicate the time to see that his needs are met (ie. Soaking hay, which isn't really an option where I'm keeping him right now) he would do a lot better. He's been shown sporadically over the past few years from two different leasees and myself, but because of budget restraints (I'm just about to go into my last year of university) I've barely been able to show him. I feel like he's just going to waste, but at the same time his COPD makes it very difficult for showing unless the proper precautions are implemented (good ventilation whereever he is, etc). My question is, do you think I could even find anyone willing to take on such a case? I don't even want to sell him but he's just been a huge drain on me both mentally and financially and I think it's finally time I aknowledge that to move forward in my life I just can't have a horse at this time. He's been shown up to 3'3" in the ribbons, I've put a lot of work into him and he's had some professional training. So, for those of you who think I could actually sell him, what do you think he's worth? He's purebred (as far as I know as I don't have his papers) and was imported from Ireland as a three year old. I purchased him in 2007 for $4000, unaware of his breathing issues. If he didn't have COPD I could easily get more than that for him considering the amount of training he's had since then, but I doubt I could get much more than that - if even that - with his breathing issues. Any opinions on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
Both photos are less than 2 months old, one from May and one from earlier this month. It's a leasee riding him in the small photo.
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    07-28-2011, 08:39 PM
I would try to rehome him as a pasture companion, and unlike the seller you got him from I would let them know what his requirements are up front. Can he be lightly ridden?
    07-28-2011, 08:50 PM
Frist of all, good for you for realizing both your and the horse's limitations. Most people are not capable of looking at their situation with a dispassionate eye.

Second of all, you don't give enough info about the horse's talent and resume, or diagnosis or prognosis for me to give you an informed opinion about the horse's value.

Worst case scenario, if his COPD is advanced and difficult to manage, you're looking at a free to a good home scenario, where someone will be willing to take on the expense and trouble of managing him in return for a nice, made horse.

Best case scenario, if he's capable of showing and placing, and the COPD is not terribly difficult or expensive to manage, you should be able to find a decent home for him that is willing to take care of his needs, and also get some money for him.

Depends on his talent, show record, training, etc., and also the particulars and prognosis of the COPD.
    07-28-2011, 08:54 PM
It would be helpful to know how advanced. The way she described his ventilation needs sounds fairly advanced. And it sounded like medication too.
    07-28-2011, 11:53 PM
It's certainly gotten worse in the past couple of years, he doesn't cough a whole lot (he's currently just getting cough free but he was given a round of steroid injections last month that seemed to help somewhat, but not as much as I was hoping). He's usually not terrible in the summer but he's been pretty bad this year, although I'm fairly sure it's because the hay where I'm boarding him is terrible, extremely dry and probably dusty. I think if he was in an environment where the owners were able to ensure he was getting soaked hay and steamed hay in the winter he would improve drastically. This past winter I had him at a different stable, and despite being inside most nights he did incredibly well, he didn't need medication at all and I almost forgot he even had breathing issues. The hay there was wayyy better, but some extenuating circumstances (with humans) forced me to leave. He's been shown at Trillium level (which is akin to regional level) in the ribbons, but I've only been able to show him myself at one of those shows, where we received clear round and 3rd place in the two courses I took him in. He did well with the girl that was leasing him, but she hadnt quite gotten the feel for him yet and then decided to stop leasing him - she took him in two trillum shows with a couple of lower placing ribbons. He's done brillantly at local shows with me, grand champion in the jumpers at a couple of them when I used to be able to go. I'm hoping to do some schooling shows in the fall to show him off a little to potential buyers. But when he's bad, he's really bad - to the point where he can only be ridden lightly for 20 minutes, if at all. But like I said, I think a big issue right now is the hay, because, though he wasn't great at the old place last summer he wasn't as bad as he's been here, and they weren't soaking the hay at the old place either. But I full heartedly believe that he could still be shown if the proper precautions were taken.
    07-29-2011, 07:49 PM
We had a gelding for a while, great horse would have kept him forever except he was an EXTREMELY aggressive gelding and since we didn't have a lot of space we had to sell him.

He has what I would call the beginnings of COPD by the fact Tri-Hist prescribed by the vet would take care of it. The new owner didn't have it show up at all. The people we bought him from blamed it on the hay the barn used, but when we had him it was less the type of hay and more the type of weather. His would erupt when it became very hot and humid out. Then we would put him on 1 scoop of Tri-Hist morning and night and he would clear up.

It sounds though like he is a bit more advanced. Are the steriod shots very expensive? I guess what I want to say is figure about how much it costs on average monthly to maintain him. Once you understand the costs you should get an idea of what the new owner would be assuming and set a price from there. The most you can do is try and if you don't find him the right home keep him.

Best wishes in rehoming him, he looks like an awesome horse.
    07-30-2011, 12:52 AM
I would not even consider taking on a high maintenance horse and pay for it.
    07-30-2011, 02:14 AM
Give him to the person who knows his problems and is willing to work with them. That person is going to spend plenty of money on the horse in the future. It's all about the welfare of the horse and finding him the best home. You may be able to get money from someone else but why chance it if there is someone who will take care of him properly? Good luck.

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