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post #1 of 19 Old 07-14-2014, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
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Arrow KY:: Critique Sale/Lease Ad Please!

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I am trying to lease out my ArabianxCaspian, Diamond. I've gotten some interest, but I was wondering if there was a way to tweak my ad to get more.
She is posted on EquineNow, HorseClicks, DreamHorse, and Craigslist. The ads are all the same as below. Link is to her EquineNow ad.
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post #2 of 19 Old 07-14-2014, 01:27 PM
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I think it's your honesty thats hurting you by listing temperment as a 5. I know the scale is completely subjective but most horses are listed as 3 or less. Price and lease seem reasonable. Would guess most people looking for a horse in that price range are looking for a laid back beginner horse.
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You're saying things like, "arabian attitude", "intermediate rider", "I don't want to sell but I might".....the ad is all over the place for a horse that is 16 years old and still pretty hot, plus you want someone to pay for her but not own her. Not going to get many hits on that unless it's for a top level show horse.

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Is this an improvement?
I would like to add a YouTube video as well, and will as soon as I can get a helper to video me riding her. Would that help?
I really don't want to sell her, and would MUCH prefer to lease her to someone. Is her lease price unfair? She does fantastically in an arena, she only shows her issues when she is ridden in a field or hasn't been ridden in a while. The problem is, when she is ridden in that field or is fresh, she's really quite a handful. I don't want to make it seem like I'm ripping anyone off, but I know she can preform very well under someone who knows how to ride, and can ride her more frequently than I can.
Leasing her out because I don't have the time to ride her as much as she deserves to be ridden, as I am focusing on my show jumper TB, Cowboy.

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IMO, the Arabian attitude would make me go NEXT. Most people looking to lease or buy, are looking for a good, steady horse that isn't going to surprise them. I'm not sure how you need to phrase it, but saying Intermediate rider and maybe something about has plenty of go or lots of forward would be better. As soon as you say "Arabian ..........." Anything, people see spook, crazy, hot, uncontrollable.

I can't answer about the lease fee, I don't lease my horses and wouldn't lease a horse. I'm all about, if I am paying, I am owning.
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What is your sale price? I know somepne looking.
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Intermediate rider and perfect for a child… it just me or is that contradictory?

You also do not say whether the $200 lease fee includes anything, whether it is on site, or if the person also has to pay all expenses, like board.
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You also do not say whether the $200 lease fee includes anything, whether it is on site, or if the person also has to pay all expenses, like board.
This is what I was wondering as well. IME it's pretty rare to charge a lease fee unless the horse is show-ready at intermediate to high levels. It doesn't sound like she has the show record to justify it. On the other hand, if this it the price for a full on-site lease covering all the horse's expenses, it seems pretty reasonable. You do need to clarify what the person is getting for the money (full lease, partial lease, etc.), if it's an on-site lease only vs if you're willing to let the leasee take the horse to their own property or boarding barn, and if there are other expenses they will have to cover (vet, farrier, etc). You don't need to spell out all the terms of the contract, but you'll get more responses if they have some idea of what $200/mo is for.

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regarding the price: I am in harrisburg pa. In the last year, I've leased a horse (half lease on paper, but a full lease in practice) for $100. this included all care done by owner, including stalls, feed, vet, and tack. My portion was $100 a month plus 1/2 of farrier bill every 6-8 weeks. It gave me unlimited days and hours of riding on sixty acres, with trail rides out with the owner occasionally.

I looked at and rejected a lease for $125 for unlimited hours and days of riding on miles of trails. Full care by owner. My only reason for rejecting the deal was that I wasn't fully satisfied with the level of care given.

What I have now is a lease on a 8-year-old quarter horse that is nearly dead broke, traffic safe, and kind. I pay $150, and while it is a half lease (three days a week, 2 hours a day), in practice I ride whenever I want. I can ride on some limited trails on the farm, and I can road ride within the nearby community. There is an indoor arena and an outdoor ring. I also have access and encouragement to ride the owner's other horse, a kind, though spooky TB. Great facilities at this place, and I wind up riding six days a week for up to four hours a day. So...great deal, too.

My point is that at $200, you need to be offering a great deal and be clear about what the lessor is getting.

Talk up her trail ability, if she is trail safe, and let the lookers know how much riding you feel comfortable offering. I'd be interested if she were local, but probably not at $200. I wouldn't remove the intermediate requirement if you strongly feel that is what she needs.Good luck.
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@greentree -- $1000 negotiable. To the right home, where I could ENSURE she wouldn't be going to a kill-buyer or anything of the sort, I could drop it *much* lower.

@franknbeans -- I did state in the ad that she would be good for a child/adult looking for a second horse, not strictly a child. I see where you are coming from, though, and that can be edited. As for your second comment, would adding all of the details of a lease be too much information for just an ad? I was thinking an off-site lease, owner(myself) pays vet and farrier, leasee rides whenever they want wherever they want, though they pay boarding expenses if applicable.

@verona1016 -- Answered many of my questions in the above post, thank you.

@skiafoxmorgan -- Hmm ... I do not have an issue dropping the price a bit, if that is what needs to happen. She has shown, but not at any level of interest to be perfectly honest. I do feel strongly about her needing an intermediate rider, especially if leasee/new owner would want to jump her.

So in summary, add what the lease entitles (to an extent) and maybe drop the lease price?

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