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post #1 of 6 Old 09-04-2009, 04:24 AM Thread Starter
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Leasing, what should I (we) look for

One of my good friends is considering purchasing a horse to take lessons on and get more into the horse world. Being one of my friends, he's been around horses a lot and I've given him some simple lessons with tacking, trotting, right lead wrong lead cantering, proper grooming...and lots of direction. When he was younger he did horse camps but still his knowledge and skill level are still very beginner.

I suggested he lease a horse because it'll give him a sense of ownership. That way he can lease so he can make sure a horse is what he really wants. He apparently didn't even know this was an option and asked me to help him. I agreed with open arms. I suggested a care lease I think it's called? This is what I'm thinking about and I had one of these a while back when I was younger.

The horse is at a boarding barn the owner and lessee agree on.
The lessee is responsible for boarding costs including food and routine vet care such as shots, worming, and routine farrier care.
The owner and lessee have a contract stating terms and conditions some sometimes a possible lease to buy option.
The owner covers all major emergencies such as surgeries, brakes....emergency type stuff and whatever else they feel is emergency

What am I leaving out. He wants to board a horse close to him and the closest will probably be at the barn I board at. They cover the cost of food in board and minor farrier work such as trims and filing are included. Shoes are not.

I'm going to go with him to meet horses and I will be the one looking over the contracts, looking at conformation, watching for soundness issues, and testing the jumpiness of the horse.
What do you include in a contract like that or what would you suggest we look for in that sort of leasing deal?

Also since he is still basically a beginner what should be watch out for as red flags when looking at a horse for him to lease.

Thank you!

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post #2 of 6 Old 09-04-2009, 04:39 AM
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Hmm.. I have only leased one horse before.. but, she was a half lease, so she was boarded at the owners place..

Your friend is very lucky that he has you to help him out. That is a great idea to full-lease a horse for him, so he can experience having a horse of his own. Instead of rushing in and buying one, then losing interested down the road..

You pretty much got everything you need xD

When looking at horses, make sure the horse knows the basics, walk/trot/canter, leg aids, rein aids. neck reining (if western)

I'm not much help! haha
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post #3 of 6 Old 09-04-2009, 04:45 AM Thread Starter
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That was helpful. I'm going to go with him and check how the horse is on the lunge. I think he wants to follow english and I'll have to check what his budge it because my board is 380 and he'll have to be able to afford that plus vet and farrier.
I thought of another thing: good with other horses is a plus.
I'm making a list so he can start looking too. He's giving caleigh a ride tomorrow for a lesson and she can be stubborn at times when it's not me so I'll show him conformation and standing and all that good stuff so if he finds something he likes he can give it a look see and then give me a call.

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I've sort of always drawn up my own leasing agreements. You can buy ones but there are a few things you have to look at/think about (I think).

Such as, if you permanently injure the horse while riding do you only have to cover all vet fees or do you have to buy the horse at its pre-injury value? If its the second then you decide on a value at time of lease for the horse.

Also, if there is a situation where the horse has broken its legs, excessive colic and basically the vet advises that you put the horse down and you cannot get onto the owner then do you have the authority to do that?

If the horse is injured in the paddock, or gets sick, clarify who is liable for the vet fees. Remember to include information about immediate vet fees as well as on going care and recuperation which may exceed the lease period.

If a rider falls of the horse and the horse is deemed to be dangerous, who is responsible for letting them ride? (Unlikely to happen). Also, property liability.

As far as kind of horse...I would look for a school master who is quiet and has done everything, but with still a little go and something that you can have fun on. Easy to handle on the ground, can do low jumping, basic dressage, quiet on trails, good with other horses.

Just the standard. A horse with bad ground manners often intimidates a beginner, even if its a problem that could easily be controlled by a more experienced handler. A horse with a forgiving personality is better, a high strung mare with an attitude will not work out well after a few unintentional jabs in the mouth. You are better of with that slightly aged calm gelding than that dashingly pretty and alert young mare. Don't be persuaded by the pretty horses - look for something reliable.

Hope I helped a little.
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great points! I'll write them down. These are good points for him to know.
Well I don't think Sol being a guy cares about prettiness and he knows I'll bitch and give him no help if he chooses based on bad characteristics. I've always worked with drafts when leasing and he was thinking of an old draft cross. I was thinking more QH gelding for him.
I don't know when we'll start looking. My area hasn't shown much for leases when we checked the first time. In the end I might let him work with Caleigh if we can't find something suitable for him. She's great with all levels. Up and ready for me and sleepy and lazy with kids.

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post #6 of 6 Old 09-05-2009, 12:53 AM Thread Starter
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So new plan.
He's going to take lessons from me starting tomorrow on my Clydesdale (I don't have anything smaller but she's great for whatever). I'll make sure his basics are touched up and that he knows the very very beginning such as brushing, tacking up, and all that. i'll start him on a lunge line and work on seating and balancing. I told him once I was comfortable with what he could do I would help him find a horse to lease that fits his level. He agreed.

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