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    06-21-2012, 12:06 AM
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Foal
need some advice!

Hi, I am in need of some advice. Sorry if this is long but Id like to thouroughly explain the situation. Im totally new to horses, only ridden about 20 times mostly before age 12.... although I've ridden a few times in the last few months. Im now 33. I have been dreaming about owning a horse for years.

Several months ago I was at a friends house Id just met, who owns horses and they had just got a pregnant mare they were caring for, for a friend. I feel kind of stupid saying this, and can't really explain it, but as soon as I saw her I had this little twinge in my heart and the thought ran through my mind, that horse and baby would be mine. At the time, I shrugged it off, because I have no where to keep a horse and had no idea why I thought that.

Then, just a week or so ago I heard they were selling mom and baby. (Girl who owns horse is pregnant with fourth child) I inquired to see if it was true, and they said they were considering it. Apparently the friend who they were watching the horse for does not want the mare or the colt back because she's too busy and travelling around. I started to mill the possibility in my mind but thought to myself, I know nothing about horses, so it seemed unreasonable.

Now, a couple days ago, my friend comes to me and says the mare is breaking out of their elecrtic fence to go eat grass by the creek and told me they had to come up with a quick solution. They were going to have to sell the mare and colt, or alternatively, have offered to sell me both and then they would have the money to build a large round pen to keep the mom and baby in. They would care for them and I could come over and work with them without having to pay stable fees. They live exactly two miles from my house.

I went to go visit them today, and I fell totally in love with both of them. I felt totally comfortable with them too. The baby, 2 months old, let me love all over him, followed me around a bit, and the mom was super sweet. Also letting me love on her and nuzzled me a bit. She did not seem spooky or skittish all. She is only green broke, however, and my friend says she is totally calm and easy to ride just doesnt know any commands. Words she used to describe her were lazy, hungry, friendly, and possibly not super smart. (but stunningly beautiful) She also said she'd be a good kids horse because she wont take off and run. I am thinking this sounds appealing to me, as a beginner. She said if I work with her 2-3 times a week I could be trail riding the mare in a month or so.... (but I would probably want to spend more time then that, whenever possible). I found out today my friend has taught professional horse training and trail riding and she said she'd be happy to help me all I want but she can't get on the horse right now because she (the human) is pretty far along in her pregnancy. I also live in a small rural community and there is a stable nearby and I know some of the people who work there, they charge $25 per hour for lessons and even less than that if I do some volunteer work.

Soooo... although I'm totally new to horses, it seems that cards are in my favor as far as support goes. They want $400 for mom and colt. I would pay for food monthly, probably clean up poop when I come over, and they would let me borrow supplies such as saddle and whatever else until I get my own so my initial investment is just $400. And my birthday is only 5 days away and hubby says he will help me to either buy the horses or pay for other stuff if I buy them myself..... what do you think- should I do it???? Could you help me think of questions to ask? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
     
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    06-21-2012, 12:12 AM
  #2
Weanling
Make sure you have a contract wether friends or not you need one. 2 although you are new to horses you gotta start somewhere and if you feel comfortable with both mare and foal congrats now go get a book that deals on handling foals etc etc. don't be afraid to ask for help ( Trainer vet farrier ) that's where you learn. Just know it cost alot to feed and care for horses and if you are finacially stable by all means do it. Oh and open a savings account strictly for horse emergencies pop some dollars here and there when you can. Good luck and have fun oh and get pics!!!

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    06-21-2012, 12:32 AM
  #3
Yearling
I personally wouldn't. Green broke horses are not a good idea for a first horse for a beginner. The fact that your friend can't ride due to pregnancy worries me more.

A foal as a first horse is also a bad idea. So much can go wrong. I got my yearling when I had been riding for 10 years quite consistently and had owned my other mare for 3 years. Really it was a bad idea. I got through it with a lot of help, there's is no way I could have done it without my experience.

Not to mention, two horses is triple the cost!

I'd really suggest getting some more lessons and if you really want a personal horse start by leasing a been there done that.

I know I'm being the grinch.
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    06-21-2012, 12:50 AM
  #4
Showing
I wouldn't either.. it would be different if the mare was completely broke to ride because then you'd only have the foal to worry about in terms of training.

But even then, a foal is no walk in the park. You need to know when to back off, when to keep on, and what to do without THINKING if x,y, and z happens. I'd leave babies to the more experienced horsemen.. I am still learning myself.

The mare and foal need to go to someone that is equipped to take care of them and train them the right way. I think if you want a horse, you should look for one better suited for you.

I know they're cute and sweet, all horses are really. But you cannot go off of that alone. Cute and sweet can turn into a nightmare VERY quickly.

Kudos to your hubby for supporting you though :) I think you would be much happier leasing a horse and learning how to ride before diving into horse ownership. This also gives you a realistic idea of how much it costs to own a horse, how to care for a horse, etc. Then you're better equipped for your own horse one day :)

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    06-21-2012, 01:47 AM
  #5
Foal
Thankyou for the input so far. Even tho my post was long I could have probably explained it a little better. About the girl being pregnant and not wanting to ride, it seems like she said it was more of a comfort issue, and that she's not feeling like riding any of her horses at all right now.. She had mentioned that she had last ridden the mare a week or two earlier, and that horse has no issues that would cause her to be afraid for me to ride it. She said mostly this particular horse just kind of stands there when you get on it, because it just doesnt know what to do. She had said the horse had never bucked or taken off running, mostly just wants to eat eat eat. I don't think they've really worked with her because she was getting ready to have the colt. The mare is 3-4 years old. Her husband said I could ride her that day, but in the moment I declined.

About the horse and baby going to someone who is equipped to handle them, the horses themselves wouldnt be going anywhere, just changing ownership to me. They would still remain with my friends who would help me train them. I might eventually narrow it down to just mare or maybe the colt because right now he is too young to be weaned or separated. She had mentioned one of the reason that the idea of me buying them appealed to her was because of her own desire to keep them longer, but yet have someone to spend the extra time with them... Her husband trains on the horses as well, and I trust them to know what they are doing. I think in reality we would be sharing them, I would just be contributing both financially and putting in the xtra work timewise. I don't see how I can lose, other than losing out on some $$, but I am doing ok with money so Im not too worried about it. As far as I can see the worst case scenario (besides injury) is having to resell them eventually if it doesnt work out.

Also, about leasing, I could ask the stables about it but Im not sure if that's a possibility around here, I live in the middle of nowhere in a town with around 1000 people.... but I could ask. I thought this sounded like a good fit because I would get to learn alot from my friends and help them out at the same time. Not sure though, Im definitely considering your advice. Let me know if the additional info changes the way you think about this, i'm open. Thanks again so much.
     
    06-21-2012, 04:02 PM
  #6
Weanling
I would be a little concerned about a friend that told me a beginner rider could be trail riding a horse that is broke, but "doesn't know any commands" in a month. Just because a horse is laid back enough to let you on it without pitching a fit does NOT make it broke, even green broke. If it doesn't how to respond to any cues, you have almost zero control. I see a potential train wreck.....at least one of you (either horse or rider) needs to know what they're doing.
     
    06-21-2012, 06:22 PM
  #7
Foal
Hi, I just got back from visiting the horses again, I weighed my emotions against my better judgement and decided not to purchase the horses. I had spoken to another trainer this morning to get another opinion and also to inquire on the cost of training the horse. He also advised against it, although he was familiar with that particular horse, and he said she'd be easy to train, he still thought it was too much of a burden. He pointed out that I'd be learning to ride, train a green horse, and train a baby all at the same time; while pointing out that I could instead buy a horse already trained and be having a blast riding around all summer while getting more aquainted with horses. When he put it that way, well how could I go through with it? I talked to my friend and I think they are going to be gracious enough to allow me to buy an already broken horse and keep it there, after they find a home for mom and baby of course.

Thanks so much for all your advice, and helping me come to the right choice. I'll probably be hanging around to ask more questions and read read read, and of course, send pics when I finally get one. Cheers. :)
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