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        09-28-2010, 09:47 PM
      #1
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    Need some advice please

    First, are their any honest horse people out there? I just bought my first horse this morning. She's a 6 yo gray quarter horse mare. Last week when I first visited her, she was great. She did everything I wanted and some. I'd like to also add, that the owner seemed to have worked her prior to my arrival. Her tongue was hanging out and she was just mellow. Anyway, we went back out there last weekend to leave a deposit. Again, she was mellow, but a little excited when we approached her. This morning, we go to get her.

    We start trying to load her into the trailer. She started getting spooky at one of the lady's dogs that kept messing with her. So, this made it very hard to load her. She also seemed a bit nervous too. So, we finally get her loaded and 45 mins later, we are at home. Now, my wife and her brother have their own horses. So, immediately, they ran up to the gate. As soon as we took the but chain off of Maggie(the horse we just purchased), she took off out of the trailer(almost skinning my hand from the rope). She seemed to be really excited. Is that because she's in a new place with new horses? Also, the tongue thing. I noticed that again today, that her tongue would hang out on the left side at times. Is that normal? Lastly, the previous owner told us that she had the horse for about 5 years. Well, according to the Coggins paperwork, she has had this horse for less than a year. I'm just worried that she sold her to us for reasons other that she just needed to downsize. I'm a beginner rider and she advertised this horse to be perfect for beginners. Please let me know your thoughts, ideas, and opinions.
         
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        09-29-2010, 12:01 AM
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    Have you ridden her yourself? Did you ride her away from her original place?
    I imagine she is very excited about a new place and new horses, that's pretty typical. I would be concerned about her tongue.. Just a question, does she have teeth on that side of her mouth to hold her tongue in?
    Yes, there are plenty of honest people out there, but there are probably more that are dishonest and just trying to sell horses.
    Unless she is very well trained, a 6 yr old horse is probably not the best beginners horse. They are still very young and spooky at that age. I would have been concerned that she rode the horse alot before you got there. When you arrived a week later, you stated the mare was calm but a little excited. Did the lady know you were coming to see the horse again? I might worry that she is either riding her alot before you show up to slow this horse down or using something to make her so calm and relaxed and a possible reason that tongue hangs out. Did you get a try out period? I just worry about a six year old horse for a beginner, she is still young enough to need training and lots and lots of riding and if you are not experienced, then that could be a red flag.
    I would be curious how she rides in the morning.
         
        09-29-2010, 12:48 AM
      #3
    Foal
    I did ride her at the lady's place. My wife also rode her. She seemed fine. I'm just starting to wonder. Right now, she's in a stall and will be every night for the next few days. I didn't want to turn her loose on the first day. She doesn't care if I walk up beside her or pet her. I am curious about tomorrow too. I'm hoping this wasn't a mistake.
         
        09-29-2010, 01:10 AM
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    Honestly I'm not too horribly concerned about the tongue issue at this point, I had a TB mare that would stick her tongue out the side of her face because that was just her (she started it I'm sure because her old owner had her in a twisted wire snaffle, and didn't know how to ride, so she did it to evade the bit), and even though it looked weird, everything else was perfectly normal. I would be more worried about her either having ridden the horse extensively before you guys came out, and/or having drugged her a bit before hand just to make sure that she wasn't too "wild" for you. She will obviously be quite excited about being in a new place, so I would see how she does over the next couple of days, and if you haven't gotten a vet out to see her, I would have one come and just check to make sure that everything is okay with her. The first couple of horses I bought, I made sure that I had a good trainer with me, to spot any possible inconsistencies, ask questions I might not have thought to ask, and make sure that everything seems to be right. If possible (unfortunately there are some situations where it is just not acceptable or possible or what not), I strongly encourage going out to see the horse without prior notice, to not see the horse ONLY when you've made an appointment with the owner, cause then you can see the horse at its most natural and normal, and that will tell you a lot about the horse and what its really like.
         
        09-29-2010, 07:38 AM
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    Originally Posted by sirsean52    
    First, are their any honest horse people out there? I just bought my first horse this morning. She's a 6 yo gray quarter horse mare. Last week when I first visited her, she was great. She did everything I wanted and some. I'd like to also add, that the owner seemed to have worked her prior to my arrival. Her tongue was hanging out and she was just mellow. Anyway, we went back out there last weekend to leave a deposit. Again, she was mellow, but a little excited when we approached her. This morning, we go to get her.

    We start trying to load her into the trailer. She started getting spooky at one of the lady's dogs that kept messing with her. So, this made it very hard to load her. She also seemed a bit nervous too. So, we finally get her loaded and 45 mins later, we are at home. Now, my wife and her brother have their own horses. So, immediately, they ran up to the gate. As soon as we took the but chain off of Maggie(the horse we just purchased), she took off out of the trailer(almost skinning my hand from the rope). She seemed to be really excited. Is that because she's in a new place with new horses? Also, the tongue thing. I noticed that again today, that her tongue would hang out on the left side at times. Is that normal? Lastly, the previous owner told us that she had the horse for about 5 years. Well, according to the Coggins paperwork, she has had this horse for less than a year. I'm just worried that she sold her to us for reasons other that she just needed to downsize. I'm a beginner rider and she advertised this horse to be perfect for beginners. Please let me know your thoughts, ideas, and opinions.
    Nothing you wrote makes bells and whistles go off in my head that you were scammed or anything.

    I assume you did a PPE?

    A horse getting worried when being loaded/unloaded is not that unusual. Add that you were loading the horse alone (no other horse on the trailer) and it surprises me even less. Some horses find being alone very stressful, some horses find trailering very stressful. Some horses you put the two together and they are extra stressed.

    A horse being overly alert in a new place is not uncommon either. Even been there done that horses can come off the trailer and be snorty.


    I do not know of any line on a coggins that even implies how long a person has owned a horse. What on the coggins makes you believe they have owned the horse for only a year? Coggins need to be redone regularly (varies depending on state) so a coggins with a current date means nothing as far as how long they have owned the horse.

    The tongue thing sounds like just something she does.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:33 AM
      #6
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    OP, everything you've written tells me you're not that aware of how horses react to new sights, sounds, and being moved to an unfamiliar farm with unfamiliar people and animals.

    As far as the coggins, the ONLY date it shows is the date the vet pulls the blood for the test, not how long someone has owned a horse. Do you not have coggins on all the other horses on your property? If you do, how is it that you've never noticed what's actually on one?

    As far as loading, did you ask her previous owner how she was about loading and trailering? Quite a few horses have problems with this, especially when it's a strange trailer and strange people trying to load them.

    Doesn't sound to me like you got rooked, so much as you're not very horse savvy.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:45 AM
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    Originally Posted by sirsean52    
    . She's a 6 yo gray quarter horse mare.
    Do you have her registration number or her registered name? I would be happy to do an owner search to see how long the owner had her.

    My horse was a total freak when I brought him home. Born and lived all of his 9 years on the same place with the same owner. I thought WTH did I get myself into. But he had all the right stuff it just took a little time to get it out of him. He is very dependent on his rider for confidence and will work his best after he trusts you.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:59 AM
      #8
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    To the OP,

    Congrats on your new horse! First time horse ownership is exciting, scary and a learning experience.

    Some great points have been made in this thread so far. I just wanted to add my two or three cents -

    Did you take a knowledgable horse person or professional with you when you went to see the horse? Or did you get a professional opinion on suitablity?

    What are your plans for this horse? If it's just as a pleasure horse, the tongue is not a problem; it's just an odd habit. If you intend to show the horse, however, it may be a problem.

    Something the did set off a red flag for me -

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    Right now, she's in a stall and will be every night for the next few days. I didn't want to turn her loose on the first day.
    Not turning her out the first day is fine and sensible. But please make very sure she's had adequate turnout before riding her the first time. As a matter of fact, find out what her turnout schedule was at her old home and try to duplicate it for the first couple of months. If she's used to being out 24/7, and you have her up in a stall at night, that could cause a *big* change in her attitude and way of going.
         

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