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post #21 of 32 Old 12-24-2011, 12:59 AM
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I am in Southern Oregon as well. Where specifically are you located? I think I know a girl who might just take some serious interest in this boy.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #22 of 32 Old 12-24-2011, 01:01 AM Thread Starter
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I'll PM you Sorrelhorse :)
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post #23 of 32 Old 12-24-2011, 01:05 AM
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EDIT - Sorry, you PMed me. I'll tell you there.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #24 of 32 Old 12-24-2011, 12:39 PM
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Have you thought about plucking hair from his dark and light stripes to confirm chimera? That, to me, would be the most obvious place to find different DNA samples.
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I have thought of that ,but I don't think that is quite the way it works. When I sent in the mane/tails hairs I asked if I should also send in some fur from various parts. They said no at that point. And honestly whether or not he is chimeric doesn't really matter. There is nothing saying just because a horse is chimeric and grey he won't completely grey...or that he will. There is nothing saying just because he is a brindle grey he will or won't grey. There is close to or completely nothing on this. No statistics.
I have done the best by him as far as papers/testing. Should he end up selling it will be the new owners choice whether or not to continue testing.

Thanks for asking :)
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Here is some more good information regarding his special coloration and DNA testing done on him:

I have alway freely given this info to anyone that asks :) He has been DNA tested for AHA registration so he does match both his sire and dam. Insignia Desha and Bint Bint Safina. He has also been Grey color tested by Animal Genetics,Inc. His test results were Gg. Which means in an ordinary horse his chances of greying would be 50%. But because he is brindle there is no way to prove that will or will not apply to him. What I HAVE observed since getting him is that his undercoat (the lighter grey) is getting somewhat lighter...however his black stripes are staying the same and actually appearing darker because of the undercoat lightening. My gut feeling is that his stripes will not grey from what I have observed and heard. Would I advertise him as not going to grey out? Absolutely not. It is simply my opinion and I am sure people can make their own deductions.
A mane/tail sample was sent to UC Davis to look for chimera. They did not find 2 DNAs in that sample. They said that neither confirms nor denies chimera because he could easily have a different DNA on a different part of his body. Unless I shaved him completely and sent everything in AND they were willing to test each piece Chimera still will continue to be neither confirmed nor denied sadly.

His mane/tail IS two toned. 1/2 the darker and half the lighter. His mane however is all the lighter grey.

He was gelded at around 6 months before leaving DeShazer and as far as I am aware they had no testing done on him.

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask.

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post #27 of 32 Old 12-26-2011, 03:53 PM
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Quick reminder here;

Horse For Sale forum is not the place for detailed critiques. If you have a valid question, well, that's cool but this is not the place for open critiqueing.
Private messaging is a valuable tool here.
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post #28 of 32 Old 12-26-2011, 07:00 PM
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Just wanted to mention that any horse with even just one copy of the grey gene has a 100% chance of going grey. Its a dominant gene, only takes 1 copy to make a grey.
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Well he doesnt neccesarily have a 100% chance of going grey. Although that may apply to normal grey horses.
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post #30 of 32 Old 12-26-2011, 08:08 PM
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You don't know that for sure, since you do not know for sure that his bridle is or is not grey...

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