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post #1 of 33 Old 01-08-2013, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
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"No Tire Kickers"...?

Okay, this may just be a rant, but I am a bit confused. I recently began my search for a horse suitable for me and my children to ride. One that my trainer will approve of as a good fit for me and family. Our goal is to have something by late spring, early summer or sooner, if the right horse is found. Many ads indicate either "serious inquiries only" and/or "no tire kickers". Aren't I technically a "tire kicker"? I am "shopping" for a very large, serious purchase. I certainly cannot commit to buying a horse based on the limited info some people put in their ads, so I have to inquire. I certainly cannot be expected to buy the horse just because I ask questions and/or go and look at it, right? I tend to be pretty easy going and don't like conflict, so I find myself feeling bad when I tell people, "I don't think your horse will work for me..." I guess I just need reassurance that it is okay to look at horses, ask questions of the owners and then decline if the horse isn't right for us. Maybe I should just pass on all ads that have criteria of "serious inquiry only" and "no tire kickers" .
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post #2 of 33 Old 01-08-2013, 03:47 PM
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I understand why people put in "no tire kickers". I wouldnt want people wasting my time and energy. There are a huge amount of people who will come out just to ride a horse, and plenty of people who will come out and make very silly offers.

Stop for a minute, open your mind, learn. You may not agree with what I say, I may not agree with what you say but we will both learn something new.
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When I have put "serious inquiries only" in an ad, I'm trying to filter inquiries emails down to those who are truly looking to purchase a horse, are willing and able to pay close the asking price, and aren't going to waste my time writing out detailed information if they're not truly interested in hearing more about the horse for purchase.

You don't sound like a tire kicker. You're looking to purchase a horse within your criteria and aren't emailing around to see pictures of horses you have no intention of every buying.

So no, I wouldn't feel bad telling someone the horse isn't going to work when you're provided with more information.
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post #4 of 33 Old 01-08-2013, 03:53 PM
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I think if you list a horse you should be prepared that it won't meet everyones expectations and just like the buyer has to be patient, so should the seller. Having said that I do think that people shouldn't make appointments to come and see a horse and not show up or show up hours late, that is truly wasting someones time.
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post #5 of 33 Old 01-12-2013, 10:12 PM
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There is a big difference between tire kickers and shopping for the right horse. If you are shopping for the right horse you are going to try several out in your price range and pick the one that is best for you. That means the others will hear it was not their horse - so be it.

But a tire kicker is just asking for curiosity's sake with no real intention of buying the horse - they are either not in the market at all or that horse is out of their price range and they just want to see more photos for whatever reason or are even hoping for a free horseback ride.

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Part of selling a Horse or anything else means you may get a lot of people asking questions, looking around, etc. While some may think others may be wasting their time, it is just part of being a seller........

If you are selling a 100,000 grand champion then maybe it is relevant to print in the ad no tire kickers or serious inquiries only.

I have seen someone say serious inquiries only on a 1,000.00 Horse ad before, that is silly..... imo

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Tire kickers or hoof kickers as I call 'em are just looking for the sake of looking and have no intention of buying. That said, I never put something like that in my ads because you never know who might end up having a friend or a friend of a friend or a cousin, and because you were nice to them and treated them kindly, will then refer them to you, so make a sale.

I have a mare that I'm going to list for sale when I get some good photos. She's not going to be for just anyone, she can be very silly. So, when someone inquires, I'm going to ask about their handling experience because this horse would not do for someone who is brand new to horses. But I will treat every inquiry with respect and kindness, just as I expect those who ask to treat me with respect and kindness. I won't just put in the ad, "Mare is hot, requires very seasoned handler." because in fact, she can be handled by a kid, it just has to be the right kid and it's up to me to find the right person. Same thing for the person who looks for a horse, you gotta go look at them and try them before you find the right one.

Anyone who gets offended by you looking and then, praise God and thank you, for being honest enough to just say, "I don't think your horse will be a good fit for us.", is an idiot and deserves to keep their horse for a lifetime. Too many people are afraid of offending and won't say NO and then it becomes a huge pain for seller and buyer, because the seller is going to waste a lot of time following up a dead end.

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Part of selling a Horse or anything else means you may get a lot of people asking questions, looking around, etc. While some may think others may be wasting their time, it is just part of being a seller........

If you are selling a 100,000 grand champion then maybe it is relevant to print in the ad no tire kickers or serious inquiries only.

I have seen someone say serious inquiries only on a 1,000.00 Horse ad before, that is silly..... imo

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It takes the same amount of time to get a 100k horse ready as it down a 1k. By the time I get myself/kids organised and into the car, make the drive to the yard, get horse caught and cleaned up and wait on somebody... thats a good portion of my day gone.

Most sellers understand the difference between question asking and time wasters. I had somebody come out two weeks back to look at my gelding, they didnt even sit on him - after looking at him they said he was't big enough (the rider was 6'4!). We had a nice chat, a bit of a laugh about the efforts we both made and said our goodbyes. They were genuine buyers but the horse just didnt suit. That is different than somebody comin out, riding my horse and then not as much as offering an explanation and leaving a person in limbo... or offering a silly amount.
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Anyone who gets offended by you looking and then, praise God and thank you, for being honest enough to just say, "I don't think your horse will be a good fit for us.", is an idiot and deserves to keep their horse for a lifetime.
No doubt! I've been in that situation as a potential buyer, and have learned that some people just won't take "no, I don't want your green broke ill conformed monster advertised as husband safe and overpriced to boot" as an answer LOL.
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No doubt! I've been in that situation as a potential buyer, and have learned that some people just won't take "no, I don't want your green broke ill conformed monster advertised as husband safe and overpriced to boot" as an answer LOL.
LOL! I tend to disclose maybe a little more than I should, so I don't get many of those answers, but maybe I run people off a little too because if it's a green broke, ill conformed monster, I tend to say so in the ad. My ad would read something like this, "Has had 3 months training, is going well under saddle, 75 rides, all in an arena. Does not buck, bolt, kick or bite. Not recommended for jumping, offset cannons, but will be fine on weekend trail rides or other light riding." I'd also price accordingly.
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