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post #41 of 58 Old 05-05-2013, 11:45 AM
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From the latest pics of Vinnie I think I like the buckskin better now but that's also based on the fact that the buckskin looks to be a really pretty horse!!! I'm afraid if its the pick between a pretty horse that goes well and a plain one that's goes equally well I'll always buy the pretty one.
I think its the angle of that one shot that makes him look a little ewe necked - could also be that he's a bit underweight still too
The middle horse looks 'back at the knee' btw - not over at the knee. This is a pic of a horse that is standing 'over at the knee

You're paying for the horse and also the time that these people are going to give you
In the New England area prices have held a little higher than they seem to have done out west, for one thing we haven't seen the bad hay shortages and high hay prices here and we also don't have so many big breeding ranches because open lands at a premium. A lot of dealers here ship them in from those areas where they pick them up cheap in sales but the price goes up when they sell them here to cover their transport costs plus any time they spend on them to give the buyer some sort of a warranty.
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post #42 of 58 Old 05-05-2013, 02:39 PM
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Have you looked into this place in Maine? Not that far to travel and might be worth the trip
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Who is going to train a horse you get? You?

And colic is not an "issue" but something that can happen at any time, for many differing reasons. That the rescues have told you that, if that is where you are coming up with it, troubles me. And there is no gene for laminitis either, and it can be caused by many things too. As for no lameness issues? Without horses being ridden, and in training, you can not know that either. Some things won't show up unless horse is ridden frequently, and asked to perform. And, depending on terrain you will be riding in? No telling if you will need to have one shod or not. Not all horses can go barefoot.

Either they know virtually nothing, or are deliberately lying. Either way? No way I would still be dealing with them. Anyone that would tell someone there are "no colic issues" can't be trusted.

There are way too many horses out there, for this price and less that are already riding, trained and easy to handle.

The fact that one or two of these are easy to handle at this point, means nothing, as you are not asking them to do something that does not fit in with what they want to do. The minute you ask something of them? May be a whole different ball game.

You would be better off getting something well trained, older, and that you can enjoy, instead of something at these ages that is untrained.

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None of the above. OP-I would STRONGLY suggest that you make reservations and attend this.
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It is not a hugely far drive at all. You can spend 3 days watching the horses you like, seeing how they react in different circumstances and then most of them are auctioned off at the end, so bring a trailer.

You have the chance to watch, talk to, interact with the trainer who trained them, and some are in your area, I am quite sure.

I have a friend who came in 3rd last year, and she and her hubby each have one this year that will be sold. THey are not keeping them. Her mare is a chestnut-very draft-HUGE feet, and his is a really pretty bay. If you want to follow their progress, let me know and I will send you the FB page.

This would allow you access to people who KNOW mustangs. They are different to train, and if you do not have someone who can handle one, it may be an effort in futility.

I went last year, and what they accomplish with these horses in 90 days is nothng short of amazing.

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About the colic issues, I have known horses that colic when the weather changes or their food changes or anything, and have been treated multiple times. I asked the owner of just the buckskin whether she has dealt with colic with him, and she said no.

Most of the information I wrote is NOT from the rescue, or the owner of the buckskin, but simply from information I have gathered in conversation or in meeting the horses. I know the horses are easy to handle because I walked around with them and they were pleasant. I have also met horses who you lead around and they pin their ears or nip in your direction or who run when you walk toward them.

The rescue (which is actually a mustang foundation) never made any assertions about the horses, but did tell me they should be good trail horses based on build and temperament as of right now. They are both involved in ground work (lunging, etc).
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I actually saw the movie "Wild Horse, Wild Ride" and LOVED it. It is amazing. I do want to go to the NJ one! If one of these mustangs doesn't work out, I will definitely attend the NJ one.. and I might go even if I get a mustang :)
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None of the above.


Why do you say "none of the above"? Because of the training aspects?

Also - I would love your friend's facebook page!

The woman with the third mustang is a TIP trainer and has worked with 15 or so mustangs, from gentling to starting under saddle :)
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Who is going to train a horse you get? You?
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There are way too many horses out there, for this price and less that are already riding, trained and easy to handle.

I will be working with a horse trainer that has specialized in mustangs.

Also - I did mention above that being in New England, I haven't found a good horse that is sound and healthy and sane for under $1500. I assumed I would spend around $2000. So $1000 plus $1000 in training didn't seem like a lot to me.

I responded to a few other parts of your post above - almost nothing I wrote in the descriptions came from the rescues, so there was a misunderstanding there. Also - the horses are "easy to handle" as they have been doing work in lunging, so they are being asked to do something they don't want to. Aren't they?
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Something about Vinnie's front feet bothers me. His left front looks clubbed and his right front looks like his toes are too long and his heels are underrun. The right front can be fixed, if it's just a poor trim job. Clubbed feet, however, are more difficult.
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Why do you say "none of the above"? Because of the training aspects?

Also - I would love your friend's facebook page!

The woman with the third mustang is a TIP trainer and has worked with 15 or so mustangs, from gentling to starting under saddle :)
Mostly because for pretty much the same $$ you can know lots more about the horse, watch it in many circumstances and get a horse with MUCH more experience. Mustangs are amazing. I wish they had the programs they have now 20 yrs ago. I would probably have had one.

I will gladly send you Emma's FB page. I know hers will be for sale, as will her husbands, unless he wins. Then he said he will keep it. I personally like his better, but they are both really nice. His is a bay, hers is a sorrel. Built like a tank, with feet like my draft cross. She is "sturdy" as my mom would say. Lol Just don't get taken with the black one they have-she is the mustang Million horse and is not for sale. She belongs to the sponsor. This year they are all mares, just so you know, and none of them were paints. Last year there were several. From her page, you may find others you can follow. They are a pretty close knit group. Some of the trainers choose to bid on their own after the competition, some do not. But I found them all to be great folks last year and pretty honest about their horses. There is also a guy named Sonny in NJ who is really good.

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