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#1 ·
9 yr old Quarter Horse

He has bucked the last three riders off. Two were from spooking and one from getting manhandled.
 
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Yes he is obese.

I'm not concerned about the bucking part. I can and will handle that. I was wondering about his bloodlines, if they are good, decent or not anything mentionable. Also, with the description, is he worth that amount?
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His bloodlines are not bad and he's got decent conformation. The price sounds fair, however i would offer a bit less. $2200 is usually a price people ask to give themselves room to go down.
 
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The price isn't an issue. I might get him, at a small cost, train/work his kinks out, and sell him in the spring, when there should be more buyers looking.
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$2200 isn't a small cost in todays horse market... I certainly wouldn't expect to flip a horse at that price for profit, even if you wait until spring to sell.
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Bucking off 3 people and 6 months of professional dressage training? Frankly I doubt the latter is true (or something is really wrong with his tack or back). Also price is too high for the obese bucker IMHO.
 
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Like I said, I don't know all the info. My wife talked to the gal who is selling him, while I was sleeping. Then she relayed the info when I woke up. I still haven't talked to the gal firsthand.

One of the buck offs was when they unloaded the horse and immediately saddled the horse for a cattle ride. I don't know if vehicles went by or the cattle took off running or if another horse spooked first and he followed suit. My wife wasn't exactly clear what happened.

The last was pretty clear. A drunk cowboy said he could fix it and hopped on. He tried to manhandle the horse. Since he was drunk, that might have been the cause that he came off. However, I do not know if all three buck offs happened the same day or over some time.

Still waiting to hear back from the seller. She was suppose to call yesterday.
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Just to add, I may be wrong about it being the LAST three riders. That may have happened before the dressage training. I don't know.

I have tried to call her but she is out of state right now.
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Sounds like questionable owners,as far as riding/training ability:?. That is probably much of this horses problem & now i'd question how much proper training this horse has & how much of the good has been undone:-(. Agree that the horse is overpriced:shock:
 
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I also understand the comment but was just wondering the reason why. I know some wouldn't take on a known bucker but is there something else?

I don't necessarily want or need the horse. We have 7 already. I would like to help the friend out and I would like to gain more experience in training. If I don't take him, there might be a good chance he would end up at an auction in the spring and the kill buyer would love to get him. I might be his last chance.
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Well the kb is not going to be paying near that much for his horse so if that is the case the price should drop over $2000 to get this horse at a loose horse price. In my part of the US you can get a horse with no issues for less than the asking price on this one. Your money and your call but I wouldn't take this horse for free as it is just as easy to feed a good horse with no issues as it does a horse that has issues. JMHO :)
 
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This sounds all to fishy to me. One price of a horse thats known to buck the thought of flipping the horse to make a profit ( No such thing these days ) The seller is a friend but you know nothing about the horse other then it bucks and 3 months professional training. already have horse sold for spring Now thats amazing selling if you ask me. I never seen anyone sell a problem horse 6 months in advance and dont een know a thing about the horse other then it bucks. I roll my eyes on this one. JMHO

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#21 ·
Yeah.... I guess I'm wondering about the point of the thread. The OP asked people's opinion, it's been given, but it sounds like the OP has already made up his mind and plans on getting the horse. So why not post a thread after the purchase and say, "Look at this horse I got I'm an awesome trainer so I can turn him around and sell him for profit in today's crappy horse market."
 
#23 ·
When I started this thread, I was still on the fence about it. Since then, I'm thinking more of doing it, if I ever hear from the gal selling him.

Yes I said she was a friend. We met a while ago but we don't know each other well. I believe she is the dressage trainer but I don't think she knows how to deal with the bucking problem. She is selling the horse for a client, who doesn't want the horse anymore.

Nikelodeon79, I'm not trying to say I'm an awesome trainer. I know I'm a decent one but how am I to improve without taking on new challenges? My thought was to increase my experience and give him a better chance to having a useful life. Maybe I will make a new thread of him in the spring.
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#24 ·
Confusing...Sounds like he was a ranch horse? Probably QH? Then went for 6 months of dressage training-Dressage horses are usually tall,leggy, springy & the opposite of stock-working ranch horses. This horse doesn't look tall or springy, but he is nice looking. so the "facts" are just confusing-to me.

But, if you get him cheap, work him for a few months & can make a profit on him-why not? Some horses really benefit from lots of wet saddle blankets.
 
#25 ·
I would consider why he is bucking. . He is 9, has been trail ridden, and has had 6 months of professional dressage training. Why all of a sudden is he bucking off 3 people? I would really look into why, if it relates to pain and from where. I would go look at him and ride him and really go over him with a fine tooth comb. IMO he seems priced high. I looked his father up on allbreedpedigree.com and didn't see any accomplishments, info, or pics about his dad. But I am just getting into the QH pedigrees. So what do i know.
 
#26 ·
Well I finally talked to the seller. I didn't get any more info but set up a time to go look at him on Monday. The reason she hadn't called back was she had to confirm with the owner that that deal was ok to do.

So I guess wait until Monday.
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#27 ·
Not sure if anyone looked at his bloodlines.... he is most likely going to want to buck. He is mostly cowhorse, running horse bred. He is a what I call a "big circle" horse. He will be a dandy ranch horse that pounds rocks to gather cattle. He probably will keep bucking until he gets a consistant job.

If you are looking for something to ride hard, he will be great. But don't expect to turn this horse out for a few weeks and hop back on with no problems. You already have 7 horses...I would pass, given the price, breeding and maybe your situation with that many horses that need rode. If you're day working and need a go getter...this would be the guy.
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not in a million years because there are far too many well bred, well trained, and well mannered horses not mention much better conformed available that I wouldn't bother with a seller who over prices a horse by that much. I understand wanting to take in a challenge but there are horse's that you could buy that are already trained for a lot less with better pedigree why bother with this one? IMO if you were going to 'turn a horse' for profit why not start out with a lower price investment since you're going to have to feed and care for it while you re-train it anyways. I find it hard to believe even after your sort out his bucking problem and training that you'll make any profit when you factor in his care and maintenance fee's. It just doesn't seem fiscally feasible to overcome the money and time (which is money). Maybe you're a damn good trainer and he'll go straight to the top or be like that movie seabiscuit and he's just a diamond in the rough and only you can see it. IDK either way Good luck to you.
 
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Well we did decide to get him. Also got more info on him. Turns out his issues stemmed from being buddy sour. It was the owners daughter that got thrown off back in June. We came to the conclusion that he was throwing a fit being taken away from the other horse. So it wasn't from pain or spooking. Not all the details were clear because the daughter wasn't there.

They wanted to sell him because they just didn't have enough time to ride him often enough and not because of the bucking. You could tell that she, the owner, was hesitant of letting him go.

As for the dressage training, the owner wanted to learn how. They felt that even though he wouldn't he wouldn't perform for shows, the training wouldn't hurt for him to learn.

I didn't ride him yet but hope to this weekend, weather permitting. Just going to let him settle for the week and start getting introduced to the herd. His ground manners are really good and he seems like a calm horse.
 
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